Radio Mike On Mental Health, Podcasting & Harmonies/
- October 6, 2020
Radio Mike produces some of Australia’s best podcasts including Hamish & Andy and Wilosophy as well as hosting is own podcast 20th Century Boy.
We chat about looking after your mental health, podcast segments, working with Hamish & Andy, ATAR scores and how much Mike loves Ryan Shelton!
On this episode of Hump Day Replay:
- Burnout and mental health
- Music scenes
- Podcast segments and in-jokes
- H&A Power Moves book
- 97 & Mike comparison
- Ryan Shelton super fan
- Working on Perfect Holiday
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EP 15 - Radio MIke
[00:00:00] GB: [00:00:00] it's the show about the daily talk show, where we listened to a few highlights of the week and chat about them with people on the podcast. And today those people, uh, Jess Mason, ingress, the usual hind, the scenes producing team, or the daily talk show and producer of Hamish. And Andy will also be. Uh, flop.
[00:00:40] I mean, he's got his own podcast, 20th century.
[00:00:45] Jaysa you produced choice. Don't chase the reports. I think that's actually, yeah, two guys, one cup, which is another one from tofa productions. Uh . Which is a spin off. Podcasts from wheel Anderson's tire fault podcasts. You should have kept going, George, should I? [00:01:00] That's it, but I like this problem. Well, you're a few more than I'm just on autopilot on that I've just completely forgotten about, but yeah, it's ready.
[00:01:10] Radio Mike: [00:01:10] It's ready. Mic. Yeah. You didn't even say my radio, my sometimes podcast mic and also just Mike, but yeah, radio. Mike's fine. Thank you. And you're also in a band with Jack post. Yeah. Release to sounds. A band that has really seven songs in total, I believe. So we're up there with some of the, like we're up there with the Beatles.
[00:01:32] I'm like all those big bands that have lots of songs were definitely catching up to them. Quality over quantity. Yeah. I love it. I'm pumped for the next, for the next album ever heard someone say that they love release this out. It's just really refreshing. Thank you. And can I just say. Uh, writing a song and broken guitar.
[00:01:57] I reckon my two fives. Oh, really cool. [00:02:00] And just fun. Nice harmonies. Can we go around the rest of the room? Favorite song? Cause I'm getting fives. No one else has heard Andy of the songs. Is that true about that one called Mikey boy and. Jack that's you just describing the band? Yeah. Thanks. Thanks guys. The surely the one, the one that you guys performed live on the daily talk show attached to a string.
[00:02:30] Yeah. That's that's my favorite. I mean the plug. Yeah. One other song. He's got them. He's got him in a pickle. Here we go. There's something there's one to do with a cat. Can we just go? Nope. Okay. There's not one to jet dog cat dog, which was an unofficial. Oh, God, sorry. I appreciate whatever level you know of the band.
[00:02:55] I appreciate it. Thank you. We are a small band. We're still growing, but it would have been great if you guys just [00:03:00] listened to the album before having to be on here, it's a pretty insulting research. I understand. I'm just testing my room's good. Yeah, no release the sound Sysco. Worry about, I feel like I just keep talking.
[00:03:15] I'm just going to let, I'm just going to let you talk. I'm having a drink. Okay. Great. Well, He's having a drink of water. Jess is drinking her milk. What are you having? Jessie? Have you had your milkshake yet? What is it like a milkshake? Jess was drinking something before the show. Yeah, that magnesium. That was really yourself.
[00:03:36] That shit yourself. Yeah. Yeah know, right? No, I've had the required dosage. I haven't gone above you. Supposed to have. Yeah. Yeah. Great. So what's happening, Mike? How are you? How is, I mean, Isolation has been tough. How are you, how are you going? I'm going okay. I assume everyone here is in Melbourne where the lockdown has been [00:04:00] pretty bad.
[00:04:00] Um, yeah, I've been like kind of depressed because like I leave by myself and have done for pretty much, most of this lockdown period, uh, which. Was a terrible time to decide to move out by myself right before a global pandemic, but I'm doing okay. I've just been like spending most of my time over the weekend, playing the new crash Bandicoot game, um, which is insanely hard, but a lot of fun.
[00:04:29] And I've been really enjoying that. Um, but other than that, like just pretty bored and really eager to get back out into the real world. Like most of us, I don't think anyone's like, I just hope COVID keeps going to Amazon. That would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yes, I listened to your podcast, 20th century, boy, right.
[00:04:47] Show, um, where you explore your identity and mental health through pop culture and video games and that's sort of thing. Yeah. And, um, and it is very admirable. What you've done lately. You just [00:05:00] decided to take a little bit of a break to look after your mental health. So yes. I took a month off, uh, because I just, like, I was just starting to feel like the general burnout and fatigue of like, and you guys would probably have this, like, cause you guys have like a proper job, which is working for big media company, but I assume you're all creative as well and like making your own stuff.
[00:05:23] And sometimes it's kind of hard to balance, like having a job and having a career and trying to advance that. Um, but also just wanting to have a creative outlet and like not having. Enough time or steam or like brain power to do all that stuff. So I, I took a month off of my podcast with no pre-warning to anyone.
[00:05:45] So I got a lot of messages saying, Hey man, the podcast hasn't been out for a month. Um, but yeah, I just needed some time to not do it, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. I mean, this week on the daily talk show, the boys were talking about this sort of stuff. [00:06:00] Uh, emotional honesty, I think was the language that Josh used.
[00:06:03] So I just play a little bit of, a bit of a grab here and, um, and we can have a chat about it. So how honest are we all about the emotional state that we're in? How much trust do we have in the people around us? That we can be honest, you pick up with it with the saves and I'm like sensing that he's not feeling great.
[00:06:24] I'll straight away be like. How are you feeling what's going on? It's like feeling a little bit burnt out. It's like, well, just fucking have the weekend. Just enjoy it. Yeah, well, no, he was, I've still got snippets to do for the show. It's like, it'd be better off you not doing that as missing a Saturday and Sunday.
[00:06:40] Oh, and you feeling better on Monday, acknowledging is honesty. Whether it's to yourself or to somebody else it's like telling the truth about how you, someone feeling the emotional state that you're in by saying, Oh, everything's fine. You're actually like fucking up with their system and being able to read what's happening or to [00:07:00] be able to provide help.
[00:07:01] And so it just made me think about emotional honesty and how much benefit there is in actually telling people. How you feeling. Yeah. So that, that burnout stuff, I think, I mean, I've felt it as well, just feeling completely swamped and just wanting to take a break. But I guess that's the great thing about where we are.
[00:07:20] Luckily we can talk about it and yeah. Take some time off, but definitely I know, I know it's hard to, to, to allow yourself that time off, you know, if you're doing your own thing, like your own podcasts, maybe you just need a, you think that you need to just keep going, keep going, but. Yeah. What, what was the, the sort of realization that you were actually tied in, that you were burnt out and how did you go from that?
[00:07:43] To being able to be like, okay, like, I actually need to take a step step away from those creative things that you're doing to give yourself a little break. Yeah. I dunno. I think for me, like often, because I like do a lot and I find it often [00:08:00] really difficult to say no, particularly to work. So I just take on.
[00:08:04] Anything, which, which is like a privileged position to be, Hey, and when work is being offered to you a lot, and that's great. Um, but I think it just comes from that, like when I first started in commercial radio, which was my first like proper radio job, like you just wanted that foot in the door, you just wanted any opportunity.
[00:08:23] So you'd never say no to anything really. And I feel like I, it it's, it's like a, it's like a habit to just say yes to everything that. Ended up starting to mean like, Oh, I'm now just taking on so much work that I don't actually have any time to just like actually live my life and like play crash Bandicoot on the weekend.
[00:08:44] Right? Yeah. So like, I think it just got to this point where I was just all always working. I was always checking emails and then. My podcast, which was like, which is like one of my favorite things to do. And I really like it, but it got to the [00:09:00] point where every time I was sitting down to do it, I was just tired and it felt like such a slog.
[00:09:05] And I was just like, ah, just, I just don't want to do it this week, which is a terrible thing to say about something that you love and something that like, people really like listening to. But I just felt like I need to like restructure a debt and figure out. What I'm going to spend my time on say, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:24] Mr. 97: [00:09:24] Well, how, how do you go? Cause I feel like I'm probably in a similar boat, like just being the person saying yes to everything. How do you go from that expectation of like, you're the person you'll say yes to whatever is thrown at you. How do you go from that to pushing back and be like, no, I've actually got too much on my plate.
[00:09:41] I don't know. I don't know the answer to that question because like, and I think being a creative person who actually just like, like, we all love this industry. Like, we all love podcasts and we all love media and making and creating. So it kind of feels, it just [00:10:00] sometimes feels like a, I guess, arrogant to say no to something because you want to do everything, but.
[00:10:08] Yeah. I don't really know the answer to that, I guess. Like I, I'm always learning and I'm trying to, trying to just. Move forward now knowing my skillset and just being able to say, Hey, like as much as I appreciate this opportunity, I don't know if it's the right thing for me. Um, but again, I don't, I don't consider myself an expert in handling any social.
[00:10:33] Sorry. Don't take my advice. Nah, I mean, I'm the same. I can't, I've always struggled with saying no to things and yeah. I'm getting a little bit better at it, maybe, but I don't know. I think it's about saying no necessarily, unless you really don't want to do it. I think it's about prioritizing and then, um, opening up the conversation around.
[00:10:56] What is more important right now, particularly when you're [00:11:00] being delegated a task, that is something that you need to do. It's about, um, having that discussion and saying, okay, what is more important on the scale of tasks that I have on my plate right now? Are we able to push it out a week or a month? Or, you know, You know, if you don't want to do a piece of work, like if you, if you may swear told that you had to go and produce another podcast and you're like, Oh, actually I am not sure.
[00:11:24] I have time for this right now, Tommy and Josh, um, let's chat about it. Let's chat about how we can alleviate some other work that we've got on so that I can accommodate this or, um, you know, other, other ways around it kind of thing. Yeah. So do you think, do you think you're a good multitasker, Mike? I think I, Oh, am I a good multitasker in a work setting?
[00:11:47] Because like I juggle lots of different projects, not trying to brag or anything, but
[00:11:57] but sometimes like, Sometimes I'm like in the middle [00:12:00] of something and then I'll get an email from someone else saying, Hey, can you do this quickly for this? And like, yeah, I feel like I'm good at managing my time work-wise and meeting deadlines and stuff like that. But I definitely struggle with.
[00:12:15] Multitasking and time management and relationship management in my personal life. Cause I think I just prioritize work so much. Yeah, totally. Yeah. It's the feeling of letting people down all the time, like absolutely quick job for this person and then that person's waiting for their thing and. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:12:33] And when you guys find like, like, I think your output, like the daily talk shows output on social media is incredible. Like the output you guys are doing and the stories and the posts is just amazing. Like the presence is so good. And I think that you, like, I've tried to take a step back from social media because I feel like it's this really weird, messed up like ranking system of people now where like [00:13:00] everyone's kind of obsessing over.
[00:13:02] Followers and engagement and stuff, which like, yeah, I guess that is important, but I think it takes away some of the love of, of doing, doing the thing that you love doing, because yeah, you're always wondering about the engagement on it and the followers and all that kind of thing, right? Yeah. It can be pretty overwhelming.
[00:13:20] I see everyone just churning out content and you feel like you have to do that to even keep up or keep relevant, I suppose. I find that quite hard. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's sort of like the, the consideration of looking elsewhere to engage with people. Like I think the, the conversation around, you know, email lists and us like being able to send once a week, like a whole wrap up with a message from everyone, from the team, you know, there might be some sort of like highlights package or, you know, we're promoting a lot of different podcasts through there.
[00:13:54] Like I think. That's something that eliminates the it BiPAP. I [00:14:00] bypasses that whole thing on Instagram where you just like, you know, followers like churning out content. You can be a bit more intentional with it, which I think, I think were starting to consider that sort of stuff a little bit more than just, you know, what's what are we, how many times are we posted on Instagram a day?
[00:14:16] Yeah, I think that's important. Like I think I, I just think. Instagram has this really weird way of like warping our sense of reality, because you think that your value is linked to your profile. And I think it's a series like where all, where all young people here, like I think we all know that social media isn't holistically bad, but I, I think it does a lot of bad for.
[00:14:40] For our mental health and that's something like I deleted my Twitter because I just found every time I was on Twitter, I just felt annoyed at everyone. And I was like, why do I go on this website and read a bunch of stuff that just annoys me? And then I log off and feel really angry at the world. So, yeah, I've stopped using Twitter.
[00:14:58] Um, I'm not [00:15:00] using Instagram as much, and I'm just accepting that. Like, if I can't, if I don't post something every day, it doesn't mean I'm like a bad creator or I'm a bad, like, you know what F it just means that I don't feel like I have to at the time. Yeah, I agree. Have you guys felt, um, it's been one of the positives that's come out of Harvard is that you haven't been, um, seeing everything that your friends are doing or, you know, people going out and having fun and living a life that maybe you don't aspire to have that kind of thing, except your friends in Sydney.
[00:15:35] Well, and now it's beginning again, but it's even like a, like Grice, like you're my friends out and about they're living normal life and it's so hard to go. All my friends and family are living life and going to our favorite coffee shops and, you know, going to the local pub and, and seeing each other and going to the footie and things like that.
[00:15:56] And I'm kind of stuck in a house in Melbourne. [00:16:00] And yeah, it's hard to kind of like, I'm happy that, you know, they're safe and everything, but it's also like, well, I kind of wish that was me, you know? And it's like weird this weird feeling that when I say them, but other, but yeah, Jess, I get what you're saying.
[00:16:13] Like when lockdown was on, like when everyone, like the whole country was kind of in lockdown, It was nice that, yeah. You didn't know, there was no like envy online of people going out or people doing this or seeing this person it was overseas and stuff like that as well. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Cause that's the, should we social media?
[00:16:34] It's a comparison metric almost for people to, yeah. I guess aspire for a life that they don't have and it's all it's. Yeah. Um, Yeah. It's you highlight or really isn't it, as people say all the time and yeah, that's something that I've really enjoyed not having. And I feel like once we do start going back to normal, I don't know.
[00:16:53] I might need to restrict what I'm consuming on Instagram. Um, and we all know that like the aimless [00:17:00] scrolling specific on specifically on Instagram is like, not good for us because yeah. As you said, Jess, like you are comparing yourself, but. You know, you still do it like you, like, as you were saying, why it's like, why do you go on Twitter?
[00:17:11] Like, why do you, why do I scroll aimlessly on Instagram? When I know that it's not helping my mental health, I will just say though, the FA the funniest thing we were watching, the social dilemma and crisis just picked an iPhone up midway through, gone to Instagram is super rolling. As we're watching it, talking about all the, all the bad side effects of media.
[00:17:36] To myself. Nice. Like Instagram is designed. To like pretty much be to work like a pokie machine. Like even like the thing of like pulling your finger down, scrolling them, you might get a big reward. You might not like it. It's all designed to be addictive. And it's actually like, it's actually horrible that they've, they've done this.
[00:18:00] [00:18:00] Like they've specifically designed these apps. So people spend as much time as possible on them to see as many ads as possible. And it's quite disheartening. That like the world we live in is like, someone's like, we need to make a lot of money off, a lot of dumb people who will just look at their phones and we're all guilty of it.
[00:18:18] Like where are we? Yeah, pretty much. It's, it's quiet. And that's sort of what part of what the social dilemma was saying. I suppose, like how it's old. Algorithmically programmed to manipulate us and yeah, I find it so cool. It is ridiculous. But then it comes back to that whole thing of like, when you're posting your own content and it doesn't get seen by anyone you feel depressed because the algorithm just like as kept it away from everyone.
[00:18:46] You're like, man, why am I even, why do I post this? What's the point, but you actually, uh, wrote a song about this whole topic. Pretty much the Instagram song. Great one. Thank you. We've all heard it.
[00:19:01] [00:19:00] my favorites. Yeah, it's in my top five. My most liked playlist. Yeah. Cried. At least someone put it in. But I love hearing you talk about your knowledge, live music. You've got a great brain for music and pop punk and all that sort of stuff. I've never been really been into that kind of, I never, it wasn't mine really, but, um, now I'm listening to a little bit.
[00:19:29] Yeah. Once you're saying, I don't know what was my thing? Red hot chili peppers watch Kula. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually a band. The funny thing is like, I, I would, I would say that I'm a red hot chili peppers guy, but only because of Californication, I haven't listed to any other, their songs Californication.
[00:19:52] Saying, that's my saying, actually I really like, I like the red hot chili peppers a lot, like, uh, certainly not part [00:20:00] of the pop punk scene that you've labeled me as, but I really liked the red hot chili peppers. I think they have a lot of great songs outside of California, including by the way, give it a one under the bridge, give it away.
[00:20:16] Wait was under the bridge from California. Yeah. What's that album. Yeah. Yeah. Well, don't worry about that one. They actually had an album recently code the getaway, I believe. And, uh, it was quite good. So I recommend checking that one out, too much of their latest stuff. More of a, more of an Elliot stuff, kind of guy or old school, but the original R H CPC.
[00:20:42] Yeah. I was going to get a tattoo, but it decided that might've been a bit much. The reason I bring it up is because this week, uh, Jess revealed herself to be a bit of a. Punk chick chick gripes from when she was growing up. So wait, so she was a punk chick [00:21:00] and a rock chick, or was she a punk rock chick?
[00:21:02] She was a lot of cheeks. She was a simple plan chick. No,
[00:21:10] for some reason, simple plan seems to be one of the most marked of the, you get a bad rap, like you're up. Oh, wait, hang on. We're talking like pop punk bangers, like simple plan. Look I'm, I'm going to put it out there. They have some pretty good songs. Jet lag. Great. I know.
[00:21:36] Sorry. And judge, I interrupted. It sounded like you were going to do one of those flashback things. Let me do that. So I just cut together a few, a few of the moments when. I guess we want to talk about music. I mean, there's many, many moments, but these are just a few. Can I say that the song, our original prankster by the offspring is one of my favorite songs of all time.
[00:21:55] Perfect. Is one of my favorite songs of all time. It's a good song. I'm not even joking love. [00:22:00] Perfect. I fucking love deep house. I love old school rock and roll. John McClain music, pop folk. I love screamer shop.
[00:22:11] What's your favorite thing about Missy Higgins? Um, I just like her vocals. He left a card, a Barbara of soap and a scrubbing brush next to when that said, use these down to your bones. Come on. Yeah, come on Mason to, uh, itchier and Andrea Bocelli, the perfect symphony. God, you're in love out. You fucking Jesus Christ.
[00:22:40] That was really confusing. Cause I thought it was going to throw two daily talk show highlights. And then the first one was me. And I remember saying that, but um, that song, original prankster, I think I was lying on the show because my favorite offspring song is a song called span me the details. It's a great song.
[00:22:57] If you know it, Jess, I'm showing you. [00:23:00] I actually don't know that one. I don't know, obviously no original Frank stir. Yeah, original pranks is pretty good. It's a, it is the original offspring highlights song, but spare me the details. I know that song you would have heard it. It's pretty normal. I have an issue with knowing.
[00:23:18] Like names of songs. Does anyone else have, find that as well? And the names of the albums and stuff these days, it's like when you don't have the physical copy, you guys youngsters wouldn't know this, but we used to get CDs and it's refreshing. You just don't know it because it just skips on your Spotify now.
[00:23:38] Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I do have a CD player. Not, not in this, not in my new place, but I did have, I used to collect CDs. Um, I had pretty much every pop punk album you can think of. I've got it on CD and there is also a release, the sound CD, [00:24:00] which you can, uh, we still have a few, so you can buy them if you wanted to.
[00:24:03] You don't have, we have it on record is right. Hello. Right. There's no vital for release of the sounds. Maybe that could be, I dunno, we didn't, we barely broke even on the band. So I don't know if it's worth trying to try to spend more money on it. Could you imagine one day just like dropping it in like an old, um, You know how people always have, like these old records that they sell it like a Sunday market or whatever, just go and drop a few around.
[00:24:31] And then one day he's going to pick it up. I'll just give this one, a sharp shoulder, some old, like awesome rock band. Just one day. They'll just stop pumping out your music. That'd be really cool. If someone thought we were like an underrated classic from the eighties that no one knew about, that'd be great.
[00:24:50] What's what is the deal with 'em? Getting the say days made. Cause I remember like back in, um, not even back in the day, but it was just like, I remember when you, yeah, yeah. I remember when [00:25:00] you she'd get like say days and just put them through the printer and it'll like print print a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:06] We embed the million print covers on them. Yeah. I remember that we had a printer that could do that as well. And my dad, he's not going to like this, but we used to go to blockbuster, which for you, young links was a place where you rented DVDs and dad would burn. The DVD is like you could copy the movies and just pretty much steal them.
[00:25:27] So, and then he would print the title with the printer, like instead of handwriting, like, Oh, it's cheaper by the dozen too. He would put it in the printer and print the title on it. Oh God. Right. Smells really good. But yeah, we used to, Oh God I'm outing myself, but we used to burn every DVD at blockbuster and just keep it.
[00:25:47] Sorry, blockbuster where you went out of business.
[00:25:53] Um, what was the original question? Cause it's just about blockbuster on the CDs. Just, yeah, just the PR like getting the [00:26:00] CDs made, like, was that what's what's the deal with that? It's actually really funny. So Jack organized most of it, but we just went to some printing company that printed CDs and they also print the cases.
[00:26:11] And I'm on the, I don't know. I assume none of you have a release of the sound CD, which is again, totally fine. Don't worry, but you can still buy them. Do you have fun? Do you have fat diet? Okay on this, on the CD, on the case, right? There's like on the spine of the case. So you guys all know what the spine is.
[00:26:31] I assume it's like, it just, you know how, like on a CD you'll see like release the sounds like whatever the CD is. And then on the like, left they'll might be like, just a bunch of like copyright symbol and like a number like two, five, nine, four, TM. Whatever, like a bunch of code CD code or something, you know?
[00:26:52] Um, That that's on the release, the sound CD. Like if you look at it, just a bunch of random letters [00:27:00] and numbers and stuff, but it doesn't mean anything. Jack just said, I saw saw this on another CD, so I just copied it and put it on it. Sure. So if you like go to any CD you have, you'll see, there's just a bunch of writing on the spine, aside from the title and on the release.
[00:27:16] The sounds on we've just stolen that from someone else, because we thought it made it look legit, copyright universal music. Cause it looks like it's like a legal thing that you just have to have somewhere on the CD. There's a connection. It just means nothing you could have missed out on quite a few maybe opportunities if some sort of like music manager or scout or whatever was like looking to find you guys and sign you up.
[00:27:40] So maybe, gosh, you'd actually linked that up properly. I mean, we could fight is the joke funnier than the success? I say yes, definitely. Did you ever have any piercings as a kid? Nah, I never had any piercings or tattoos or anything like that. I'm just not, I'm not cool [00:28:00] enough. I'm just not cool enough to do that kind of stuff.
[00:28:02] I'm just so bland. I had a friend who had an earring, um, when he was like 16 and I was like, dude, you got an earring. What the hell? Like it's never even crossed my mind to go and get my EAP Esther or anything. Did you have a piercing? So I got my friends to Pierce my in. Yeah in year 12. And how did it turn out?
[00:28:23] Well, this is the thing I completely forgot about this. I actually got it kind of stretched a little bit. I was stretching it at school with the, um, the little cone shaped thing, you know, like the little kind of. Triangle that you say it's, it's a thick on one side and skinny on the other side and you got to push it through.
[00:28:42] Do you still have it or did it? It's gone. It's closed up, but, um, dad's straight. My dad had piercings growing up. Um, yeah, I guess that's, I guess that's what led him to the life of stealing movies, but my, my dad had any APS thing and he has to, [00:29:00] he wasn't allowed to get tattoos for his mom. Wouldn't let him, so he did his own tattoos and he's still got them.
[00:29:05] And I think he always regretted it and he always told me and my brother don't don't get piercings, don't get tattoos. So I feel like that voice is just like stuck in my mind. Um, fairly, yeah. Yeah. So that was about as punk as I got as a kid.
[00:29:23] Yeah. What I mean, Jess, you were, you were real into the sort of like email and screamo music. You, I mean, you ain't, you even like, I much, I'm going to crash here. I want to know what grace is. I want to know what you've done. Yeah. I want to know what you've done. I've done nothing. I'm pretty blend too. Well.
[00:29:44] What were you saying? Were you in the top 40 saying you were saying fresh kale. Yeah, it was just so fresh gal. Um, I dunno, whatever it was, whatever my brother was listening to Railey, which actually was. Pete Murray. He's the love Pete Murray. [00:30:00] Yeah. Um, but yeah, I was pretty like mainstream. Didn't really. Go into any of the punk rock kind of saying, well, my friends have better music tastes than me, so, um, yeah.
[00:30:11] Sounds like it to be
[00:30:16] My music tastes better than Mason's that's so that's true. I always get criticized for music. It's all over the place here and adjusting baby, Justin baby. His new song. Holy that's a great song. Um, I will say that Justin Bieber's had so many bangers in the last like five years or so, like, sorry. Love yourself.
[00:30:37] The other one where I know, what do you mean? was a good Christmas one. Grace, grace knows eenie meanie off, off the top of her head.
[00:30:53] I know baby as well. And I was never in love with Justin Bieber. You know how [00:31:00] there was people who went through phases of like, I'm going to make sorry, Justin, Dave, like, Oh my God, like I was never like into him, but. For some reason I knew his music. Yeah. Sounds a lot. Like you were definitely into him, but I know all his music off by heart.
[00:31:22] What if you'd gone to one of his concerts? No, he did come to Perth, but I didn't go to his concert back on that, or I wasn't a fan. I remember one of my ma it would have been year 10. Justin Bay was coming to Melbourne and he wanted to know if we all wanted to go. And say Justin Bieber, but it was a resounding no, from the entire group.
[00:31:39] So really yesterday I would've been fired up. I would've gone to Justin. Oh, it'd be a great show. I love going to those big, I mean, you can't do it anymore, but went to Drake. That was probably the biggest pop shot I've been to. And it was okay. Not much of a story I'm saying I want to be on site. That would have been.
[00:32:02] [00:32:00] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. It was the best. Except people stood up the whole content. I'm not about that. Like, yeah. I'm like, it's good for like one or two songs, but then I just want to sit back and enjoy it and not have to stand up. I don't know about a mosh pit push Arik and get canceled. Mush pits, get rid of them.
[00:32:19] They are now
[00:32:23] like just a seated concert. Like I love that. I talked about this on my podcast once where like, My ideal concert is just me sitting on a chair in front of the stage watching, like, I don't want to stand up. I don't want to see any support acts. I want to walk in, sit on a seat. My favorite band plays, maybe 10 songs, and then goes, thank you very much.
[00:32:46] Good night. And I go. No, I completely agree. It's a whole experience. Getting Ellie music. The [00:33:00] experience of live music is the thing I hate about live music. Like I just want to, I love live music, but I hate the experience of it. There is a, it is a, like a long day and it's a long process, but yeah, just adds to it right away.
[00:33:16] I mean blues Fest in Byron Bay, that the people that go to that are like URS and Mike, they get there at 10 in the morning, they set up their chair and they sit there and they watch the bands and then they go, they're not like there's no standing after or anything. There's no like pushing. It's just like, they're there for the music.
[00:33:33] No, get on my shoulders and just sit on the chair, watch the band. Then we can leave and go home. That's what I want. If I would good money to see a band, to do a show like that just, well, I guess no one would, it's not really financially viable to just be like, we'll sell one ticket and you get to sit on one.
[00:33:55] Do you know what though? I have been to a concert like that. Um, It was [00:34:00] a boy in bed and they came to Bendigo and it was at the new, it's called a lumber theater and it's proper theater seating and data. And I just went and sat there and it was so nice. No one got up there also not about encores. I hate on course so much.
[00:34:15] And they were like, this is our last song and we didn't do one. So we're going after this. So enjoy it. Just the best experience. I mean, so Mike, you, uh, help out on the Hamish and Andy show, you're a producer there. We had Andy good segue.
[00:34:34] there was just, there was no segue. Yep. And now we're going to these. So it's like, you're like reading the run sheet. It's like, I have to get to this. I have to get to this, whether it makes sense or not. Alright, so you do, Hey, mission aunties. Now you're doing it. You're actually doing okay. This is a lot of fun.
[00:34:56] I mean, is there anything more you want to talk about? Yeah. Any other feedback so [00:35:00] far now I just want to go to the next, yeah, let's just set the story about boy and band. I thought that was okay. A pretty good spot to end that.
[00:35:11] Sorry, Jess. No, cause he could have been like speaking of bully and ban, they were on Hamish and Andy and Mike, you work on that show, but I don't think they were on Hey missionary, but anyway, man, you're doing a really good job. Me. Fuck you around or you have, I just ruined the shot. It's all good.
[00:35:34] Andy was on the show this week. Listen to that. I listened to that out. Isn't incredibly good. Yeah. So, I mean, they talked about in jokes and segments and stuff like that, which is a bit that I want to play here. Cause I think, uh, you'll have a bit sad. It, segments can come and go. You can get used them. Some can, um, uh, can fall away.
[00:35:55] Um, pizza lotto has probably seen it. Uh, the end of days, [00:36:00] you need to give people enough things to hold on to, but then keep variety. So it feels fresh each time for them. And that's a balance. We try and pick, we still want the show to be accessible for all. It's not about going mega fans. You will enjoy these.
[00:36:14] You'll have no idea where you're up to. If you just tune in, there are in jokes that we're not going to try to, um, Explain. Yeah. And they just roll past, but then moments. And so the deeper listener will laugh at those moments. But for those who don't know, hopefully they just fly on by. You didn't even know that you missed that.
[00:36:35] Yeah. I mean, it all makes so much sense. Like the other thing that he said was with the podcast, you can go back to the start and listen all the way through, and he didn't need to know anything from the last 10 years of radio or whatever. Um, I mean, How is that like, is there a, is there a meeting at the start of the year saying this is what we're going to do?
[00:36:55] And no, there's no, there's never been [00:37:00] like, I've worked on the podcast for three years. I did a little bit on the radio show in the last year of drive. Um, there's never been a, there's never been like a big plan of like, this is us mapping out the whole year. In fact, it's probably the opposite of that. Um, I feel like, and a lot of it, I think like often, hi, Hamish will just come in with an idea that's like really zany and wacky and totally him.
[00:37:25] And Andy will just say great. And then we just kind of run with it. Um, but we don't like, we rarely really plan. Anything very far ahead. Like it's often just like we're looking maybe two or three weeks ahead at the moment in the podcast, there are a lot of, um, like floating storylines or like not storylines, like little, you know, plates spinning in the air.
[00:37:49] There's a few things. Yeah. Going on this, you know, the loyalty cards. Um, gosh, now I'm having a mentor. Something that I should not have a mentor. Got it. But like, there's just lots [00:38:00] happening. And I feel like that's when you're kind of thinking like, How does this finish and how did, what is the goal of this?
[00:38:06] And there doesn't have to be a goal. I don't, well, they've always been so good at that, like planting little seeds throughout the year, and then just like saying which ones become, these is bigger things. I'm totally okay with the segments. Like, I feel like your show. You've got great segments as well.
[00:38:24] Thanks man. And you know, you've got to what I love with your show and Hamish and Andy is they've. You know, you've got heaps of different segments that you pull in at different points. And I follow on to the next episode occasionally, or you can leave him for a few weeks and bring them back. I mean, yeah, we don't have that.
[00:38:40] That's, that's something you got to get it. You got to get that. But that was actually the thing I always, cause I like love a mission. Andy. I grew up listening to hae mission Andy and their show was like, Like they were my best friends growing up pretty much like, like a lot of people, like, you just love that show.
[00:38:59] And I [00:39:00] loved that there will all these segments on their show and that, like, when I made my podcast, I was like, I want to have sex. Like, I want it to be sort of like that, where it's like, Oh, this, you know, this week on Hamish and Andy were doing pizza LoDo, but next week we might be doing, tell us someone you haven't thought of for a while.
[00:39:17] And then we're doing upset and D and there's just all these different segments that are like, These familiar little bursts that, you know, and then elsewhere in that episode of the podcast, there's totally new stuff that isn't, you know, an established segment. Right. And so, yeah, I've, I've got a few segments on my show.
[00:39:36] One of them that I really, really like doing is called lost in translation, where I take a lyric from a famous song, for example, Justin Bieber song. And then I like a well known lyric. And then I put it into Google translate. Through 20 different languages and then change it back to English. And then I, I read that out and then you, the listeners have to guess what the [00:40:00] original song was.
[00:40:01] Um, and most weeks a few people get it. There was one week when no one got it. And I, I can't even remember what it was. It was piano man by Billy Joel, which just got, which just got as the name suggests it got totally lost in translation. No one was able to figure out what it was. Um, but yeah, that's, that's a lot of fun.
[00:40:22] And then I just, yeah, I just try to have. A variety of different things. I've got this guy code, nacho cheese, who's an anonymous fan of my podcast who sends a message of support to all the listeners once a month, that's called nacho Cheese's monthly update. And I have no idea who this guy is, but he leaves a voice message once a month.
[00:40:43] And I've turned that into a segment. Um, yeah, just, I think that variety is really important in a shot. Totally. I mean, you've managed to create like such a great community and having all these people listening and responding to the segments much like, Hey missionary [00:41:00] with the power moves book, what's you produce that?
[00:41:04] How, how has that whole experience? Well, I see, I just created the title producer of, of, uh, the power moves book, which is a segment on, Hey, mission. I don't know if I was necessarily a producer, but basically like on the hay mission, Andy Shaw, I just take. You probably do this as well. I'm 97. I just take a detailed sort of list of notes on everything that happens in the show.
[00:41:27] Essentially. So if we ever need to find something in, Hey, mission, auntie, I can just search for it. And then we go, okay, that happened in episode 23, 2018. Let's just grab that grab and you know, it just, it just makes it, it's just information for you to find stuff. And so I log every single power move on the show and every person who writes it in.
[00:41:49] So with the power moves book, I basically had to choose the top 100 power moves. Um, Make sure all those people were consenting to [00:42:00] having their, their power move published. And then I had to give an, uh, a description of what the illustration of that power move should look like and where the punchline should see it and how everything should be framed.
[00:42:12] And it's much harder to give descriptions of that. Then you might think like, yeah, cause sometimes he, like you raid the P move and you're like, Oh, how would you. How would you draw this? Like, how would you draw this to communicate? Because like in a video, if you, if it was a V video or an animation, it'd be so easy.
[00:42:32] Cause you just animate the whole thing. But with a still image, you kind of have to have one image on the left that sets up a joke and one image on the right. That's sort of the punchline and there's no motion to convey what's happening. It kind of just has to be, you have to be able to look at it and understand.
[00:42:50] It's almost like. Spot the difference. Like one thing should change between the photos to communicate what's actually happened. So that was, that was that, but [00:43:00] we got it done is that you communicating the description to the illustrator or to the person who wrote in. Uh, to the illustrator. So we had an illustrator called Grace West, who was, who was great illustrator, who did a really good job capturing it.
[00:43:13] Um, but yeah, just lots of back and forth with grace, Andy and Andy's friend hogs. Who's the book publisher who also features on the Shire, just China, like, like you wouldn't believe the meticulousness of like, Oh, you know, Does this guy have to have his fist closed or opened or, you know, whatever it is, needs many details to be like, where is the punchline of this?
[00:43:37] And does it communicate well? And a hundred power moves just going through each of them looking at every single detail and, or like, does this guy need to be facing that way or this way? So, yeah, that was a really unique project. And, uh, I don't know if my name is credited in the book, I assume it's not, but rest assured.
[00:43:57] This guy produced it. [00:44:00] You have a favorite, a favorite power move, but yeah, there is one really good one that I, I don't know whose power moved. This is. Um, but it's in the book. I think it's one of the lighter ones in the book. So if you order a book, look out for it and it's like, it's something along the lines of this.
[00:44:18] It's like, if you're in a lecture hall and someone is giving a lecture, say at a university and. Make make direct eye contact with the lecturer and then put your hand up and say, could you please speak? Up a bit. I can't hear you. Right. And then the person is a bit frazzled, so they start speaking a little bit louder and then halfway through the lecture, shake your head and just walk out of the room.
[00:44:46] And then they just have no idea what's going on, but they have to keep doing the lecture. I thought that one was so funny and that illustration is great. And that's great. That's tied to five, right? One, one of them was, um, you get into your [00:45:00] friend's car. Uh, but you sit in the back seat, not in the passenger seat.
[00:45:04] That's in the book. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the one, the, um, when someone says, which job they do, you say, Oh, how'd you fall into that? Well, you put the job in quotation marks. That's another question. If those are in the book already, he's clearly got the top 100. There was, um, I don't know if it made it into the book, but there was one way, if you get pushed into a pool, it's in the book, it's in the book, you get pushed into the pool.
[00:45:32] You pretend you're drowning, you pretend you're drowning and you just float up to the top and then someone has to dive into, to come save you. And then you say you do that. Yeah. That's that's in the book. That's definitely in the book. Oh goodness. Favorite one. Sorry. We will go around. So speaking of community and you know, the podcast is that good?
[00:46:00] [00:46:00] You mean community of the TV show? Cause we were talking to them and he was good, but we were not talking about it. Podcast community at the daily talk show has its own little community. And I know you've got a, you've got a great kind of drunk squad crime squad. You've got it. And so, so I'm, I must have missed the, I missed the episode where Gronk squad was invented.
[00:46:22] Cause I don't really know what it means, but I think it's cool. I think that was so. Tommy wanted tame, Gronk. Josh wanted Gronk squad, right. I'm pretty sure. And it was with pate, shepherd, toll Gronk. He, um, he had the go ahead to go for Gronk squad. I think the theory that the meaning of Gronk is someone who is, uh, not quite perfect and always looking to improve.
[00:46:49] And so that's what we all are. That's what we say. Anyway. I actually wrote a definition of Gronk today, which has brought it up. Yeah. Sorry. Grong noun is a [00:47:00] person that is totally lacking in fashion sense and all social skills. So, uh, quite offensive. Um, everyone who listens to the show. Yeah, I thought the same thing I actually wrote afterwards, I said, so that definition may not ring true for the majority of Gronk.
[00:47:21] So. Yeah, right? Yeah. No, I think we've, we've got our own little take on it, but Gronk is an invented word, right? It's not a real world. Nah, it's an urban dictionary. Is that a joke? You brought that up though. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think it is an actual word, but I think it's pretty nineties. Yeah. It's you're saying, yeah.
[00:47:43] Yeah. That's my same. And so dictionary, when you, don't you looking it up? It's all made up, I reckon. And unintelligent and callous person. Yeah. Oh, that's very different to what Gus was saying. Just insulting all the listeners [00:48:00] when they decided it.
[00:48:06] Anyway, it's a mr. 97th birthday coming up. On the fence one, November one, he's turning 21. You're so young, more accomplished than me. Ah, no. I mean, you're producing much way more podcasts than he is. So
[00:48:27] before we started this recording, I said there was one thing I wanted to bring up mr. Mangan seven. Well, I just wanted to put it out there that. I, my ITA was 96.35. Oh, really? Considering I graduated five years before you, maybe we adjust for inflation. I'd actually probably be like 98, 3% a year. Yeah. 97.
[00:48:59] Very good. [00:49:00] What, what subjects did you do? I did a psychology. English, uh, it, which I doxed the ducks of it. And then I did literature and further math go as well. Well, that should further maths goes down. I can confirm that went down. Yeah. Was that and that's the top one. Yeah. Bottom. Okay. Yes, sir. But yeah.
[00:49:32] Yeah. I mean, you did, you did psychology and, uh, lit as well. So that's the hardest subject. So not, I did so. What did you do, Mason? Uh, I did the two it software development and informatics, and then a deed boy, English, uh, further maths and business management and accounting. Actually, this has been Mason.
[00:49:55] You're very quick typer. I reckon really [00:50:00] my WPM is not that great. What do you reckon these? Ah, I mean, high scores are around the hunt. Like. Above a hundred. I believe you talk very fast, like a hundred. I feel like, like 105 hundred tens of very good. Say, if you want to do it at high school, you got to have fast fingers.
[00:50:21] You've gotta have fast fingers. If you can't keep up. With the typing of the rest of the class, you're not going to docs it, knocking the docs. It you're just like, did you, so either of the its Mason, no, I was very close. I was what they all say. Yeah. I missed out by one point, but the, the annoying thing, I mean, well, actually not annoying.
[00:50:45] The good thing was like one of in the software development. I, I can't code and I can't develop any programs. And so, yeah. I was great at the theory, but not the practical. And so one of my mates at the practical and bad, but the theory, so we essentially just did each other's [00:51:00] things and the tape and the teacher gave a lot of help on assignments.
[00:51:05] So, um, Thanks mr. Totes, can I, can I tell a quick story about a it in year 12, then I've been sitting on this phone. Yes, we will get to your birthday Mason, but I could get into a lot of trouble for this. So, um, there was this guy in my it class, so I got a 48 in it. He just, just putting it out there. There's this guy in my it class.
[00:51:32] His name was David Uber. And he was very good at it. He was the likely ducks. He was most likely going to ducks the subject. He had a twin brother who the year before did it, and he got a 50. So everyone was looking at it. Yeah. You had to match the 50 now. And this is the part where I could get in trouble in the exam.
[00:51:52] Sam, the first part of the, um, the first part of the exam was multiple choice. So you have your little multiple choice shape, and [00:52:00] everyone knows. Don't pretend you don't know. Multiple choice. Great place to cheat. Great. Because you can usually see everyone else's answer. So you can do a little peek to the side, compare your answers.
[00:52:12] Funnily enough, David Uber is on the adjacent seat to me and I, you know, I'm checking over my exam and I see that he's multiple choice sheet is exposed. So I look over at it. The last question we've got different answers, right? And I think to myself, well, it's David Uber. He's obviously right. So I changed my answer to what he said, when the answers to the exam coming out, it turns out I was the one that had the right answer.
[00:52:41] I've changed my answer to David's because I thought he would have it. David, if I got that question right, could have gotten a 49. Or even a 50. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll never, but at the end of the day, I did end up beating David. So David, if you listening, I'm really sorry. [00:53:00] I hope it is treating you well, sorry, sorry.
[00:53:04] Sorry. I beat you. I mean, not, not a competition either, but I've got a 49. So did you actually just a 97 just likes one-upping me every single thing soon, you'll be producing 10 podcasts as opposed to my nine.
[00:53:25] So is his birthday coming up and, uh, with COVID. We've had to think laterally, I guess, about ideas that we could, we could do for his birthday. So this is a little brainstorming session. Cool. What's something special that we can do for service for his 21st birthday. Yeah. I mean, we were thinking about doing the fall party Scout's party.
[00:53:48] And so there is an element that we have to be conscious of the lockdown, so it could be virtual. We need someone to. Organize it for us. That's what we're saying. That's what we're plating for. Not to put the pressure on [00:54:00] Bay, but surely there's gotta be a montage of 97 moments. Oh yeah. Let that sit, George.
[00:54:08] Yeah, thanks. I'll put it in a sauna. The birthday to you.
[00:54:18] Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Josh. Happy birthday.
[00:54:38] that was beautiful. I had to put that in. I remember that. That was so good. Yeah. It's like Michael Scott from the office when he has to harmonize the birthday song all the time. No one else knows. Okay.
[00:54:57] I haven't watched the office. Sorry. I, [00:55:00] I am the King of harmony. I can harmonize anything. Oh, really? I love this. Put out a big call. Sorry.
[00:55:12] but Mason, you actually have quite a good voice, man. Yeah. That's all right. I mean, I did now the thing trying to take from me it's it's it's like I remember we had, um, The, the Australian boys choir came to primary school. And so we did it, we did like a whole singing thing for that. And I ended up doing maybe like a year or two and then maybe a year in the Australian boys choir.
[00:55:37] And it got to the point where we had like camps and stuff and it was just real weird. So I, I ended up pulling a sickie and complaining to the teacher for months to come pick me up in the campus, like three hours away. But it's definitely like a, it's definitely a confidence thing. Like you just don't want to sing, like it's.
[00:55:54] Yeah. Oh, wait, sorry. Were you asking me [00:56:00] for me, for me, it's a, yeah, I don't know. I don't like seeing that much in front of other people. I love singing. I actually really like singing. I sing in the car. I sing in the shower. I sing all the time. Um, I just think it's a really fun hobby. I play guitar. I like singing.
[00:56:19] I don't know. I think singing is a, is an expression of the soul. I don't actually think that that was great though. Thank you. No, but I actually, I really love, I think, um, it's a, it's an instrument in itself and I love your thought. Just sounded cool. You've got some great videos on Instagram. The I'm turning like M and M songs into.
[00:56:44] Acoustic versions of if a guy was performing it in the corner of a bar, there's a gray. Yeah. That was fun. I did the song I did without me by M and M as an acoustic song. Like, well, actually, exactly what exactly what Jaji white, just describing it. I'm sorry. [00:57:00] I know why I started it saying exactly the same thing that you just said.
[00:57:03] Um, but that was just like, I was just bored and I was just like, like, what would this song sound like? Okay. I'm just, I'm about to say it again out of the acoustic song and I did it. You can go check that out. It's pretty, it's pretty funny. I guess, whatever. Yeah. So if we were to do some sort of virtual game, I know that you, with your discord, like your discord is just mental.
[00:57:26] Are you in it? I didn't know you were in it. I popped in, right. I can't keep up. There's lots of your discord compared to the daily talk show ideas code. Oh my God. Our discourse is just a nightmare. Like this we're just so bad. It just being in there and chatting to people. Can I jump in it? I don't have, I don't think I have it, but I'd love to.
[00:57:44] Yeah, sure. Yeah. You can jump in and run it. I'm pretty busy guy. Can you hear the start of the year? Are you still doing, yeah. Sorry, what were you gonna say? No, you go, you go, I'm just going to ask if you're still, are you planning on doing any more of [00:58:00] those quizzes or anything like that? Oh, I was doing a trivia nights via zoom, which was really fun.
[00:58:07] And it's funny because it's like, you don't really realize how limited your like, knowledge base is until you have to write trivia questions. Because like, pretty much every question I'm coming up with is pop culture based on like something, something from the nineties or the two thousands. And I'm like, Put a, put a geography question in there, but I'm like, I don't know anything else.
[00:58:30] Like my mind is just polluted with like facts about music, games, movies, and TV, and like nothing about history, like or any other subject. Pretty much. I pretty much like giggling, like what is the chemical. Element symbol for like argon. And then like, if that was a question and I didn't even know the answer, I think it's AR or AIG, but anyway, J yeah, but I [00:59:00] haven't, um, I've been just, like I said earlier, like I took a break from just doing anything, but I'd like to do that again.
[00:59:05] It was a lot of fun. Yeah. So JB, you've got, you've got the video to do, uh that's, right? Yeah. So are we doing a video? No, no, no. Just, uh, Josh mentioned in the little snippet that I have to make a video for Mason. Happy to. Yeah. That is my love language. I was saying today Mason's ideal birthday at the moment would probably be going to an IMAX cinema and watching like interstellar or something like that with just like, and just having, you know, this amazing film or whatever it would be.
[00:59:37] Christopher Nolan, uh, Matthew McConaughey scenes on YouTube. So yeah, no, I do love, I think that would be great. I would love that. So what are some virtual things that we can do directly? Like what what's, what are some good apps? Have you guys played among us? No, no. I heard of it. Sorry among us. This is, this is this, um, [01:00:00] you game that you can get on your phone, where you can play in a group of people.
[01:00:04] And like everyone's in like a spaceship and you have to walk around and complete different tasks in the spaceship. But one person who knows, but no one else knows is a, is a murderer and they have to go around and try and kill all the other people without. Someone figuring out that they're the murderer.
[01:00:23] So that's a fun thing that you could do. And I love that and it's really easy to play. Um, so that's my idea. Now, what's your idea? And he, like, we've already played a fun lab. Surely. Yeah. We did this thing with fun labs, who they own strike bowling and Holy moly and all their sort of, sort of things. But they've pivoted to lab virtual games.
[01:00:49] So we did this. Team building thing. I guess we always played zoom games with them. That was great fun. We get them to organize it again. Apparently they can, you can book in and [01:01:00] they can set it up for up to 5,000 people at a time. Wow. 5,000. Yeah. That would work a lot of people. 5,000 of your closest friends.
[01:01:08] Mason, I think we're all missing something like no one, none of us have actually asked what Mason wants to do. And it's like, none of us, what do you want to do? Um, this is the hard thing, cause I, I, I, I'm not a party guy. Like I, I D I do enjoy having, not just joking. I mean, it's been discussed, but there's probably like 12 people, 12 to 15, maybe 20 people max that I would want at my birthday party or to hang out on my birthday.
[01:01:43] And so some small intimate thing would be nice. Um, and I guess that has to be done virtually. So it would maybe be some zoom thing, but I mean, I know we've, we've got a bit of a step challenge at the moment. Um, and [01:02:00] it's. Well, we've all committed to what I've committed to 10,000, but 10,000 steps a day. Uh, Jess you've, are you 10,000?
[01:02:08] You went down from 16,000, I believe. Yeah. I mean, technically I haven't committed to the 10,000 yet, but I'm going to have to, because I've really messed up my stuff. Okay. And. Josh is, is leading it with 16,000 a day. He reckons taking gap. And so T J reckoned 400 today, magi reckons the day before my birthday is the last day of our walking challenge.
[01:02:32] So we could do a big group walk together, socially distance, but it does look like a bit of a, I love that idea. That's a bit protests. It does. What do you reckon? If you have banners,
[01:02:49] nice. Can't we just do a picnic or something, but it might be like 10 people. That's the thing that we could make, like a BMC one. I'm sure. Mace [01:03:00] doesn't want me there with his friends and family. Sorry. Maybe we could do like work friends and family is work, you know, it's just, it's all you got your account.
[01:03:09] Yeah. Well, we included in that 12 to 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Did we speak about this with the 10 people? It was literally, yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. BMC is the 10 paper that I'd have. Brilliant. Okay. This is why you have no friends outside of work. Yeah, pretty much. I'm I'm your friend. There you go. No, I've got it above him.
[01:03:34] Yeah. Want that? I must see him as a friend. Cause Mason Cod have himself as a friend, George. He literally said the only thing that I have that nice and doesn't is that I have him as a friend.
[01:03:51] I have got, I've got two best mates from, from primary school as well, but it's certainly too. So what are their names? Uh, Jason and [01:04:00] Andre.
[01:04:05] Tim and Amanda. Like, I can do that too. Basically. It's something that you have above me, which you want to bring up at the start of the show. You've got a, you reckon that you're a bigger Ryan Shelton fan than, than me. I love Ryan Shelton. I just, he is the funniest person in the world and I listened to your episode.
[01:04:31] Was it last week? He did an episode. Yeah, it was. Yeah. And I just remember the, um, Is it, the industry sayings is my favorite and I love it. You're the one you brought up was, um, it's like trying to find a needle in a bee stack. My favorite one, my favorite one from that is I'm a, I'm a, it's like, do you want some, do you want some sushi?
[01:04:54] And he's like, no, thanks. I'm fuller than him. Pair of fat packets of [01:05:00] dice.
[01:05:04] I don't know. And my other favorite, uh, Shelton thing is in that same sketch. And I say this a lot and no one understands it, but he's just brainstorming ideas for sayings on the whiteboard. And he's just like, yeah. He's just got big cat grass written on it and he's just like a big cat grass. And I, I always just say big cat grass and no one has it, but to me it's like the funniest thing in the world.
[01:05:31] Got it. Now he's so good. When I worked at radio karate because I worked on Hey, mission. Eddie's perfect holiday, which was a TV show. A TV special. Yeah, I did for nine and I was talking to Ryan about the Institute of sightings and. Tim Bartley. Who's like, he's the fourth member of radio karate who is more like the camp he's behind the scenes.
[01:05:56] He doesn't do any performing. Um, he was digging [01:06:00] out some of the old stuff and he gave me this piece of paper, like this sheet of AFR paper that were on it, handwritten what, all the. All the like original ideas for sayings for the Institute of sayings. So there's like busier than a one legged river dance.
[01:06:16] And I'm like full of fat packets of dice. And they're all just written there and he's like, Oh, this was like, when we were originally brainstorming that. So I've got that in my, um, at my, at my parents' place. I've got that piece of paper and it's like the best piece of unofficial merchandise. That's right.
[01:06:36] Yeah, for sure. That's so good. So what was that whole experience like doing the perfect holiday thing? It was really cool. It was, it was the first ever like TV thing I'd done. Um, cause I'd pretty much only worked in radio and podcasts before that. And I was in a pretty junior role. Like I was, I was pretty much like a assistant researcher or junior researcher, but like [01:07:00] basically like I would, I was, there was no, it was, I, I think I was there twice a week.
[01:07:04] Maybe. I can't really remember now, but I would go in twice a week and just research. Potential story ideas for America and for that show. So I'm not sure if you saw that show, but one of the ones that I S I saw was the, um, they did like a glacier. A glacier harvest and they had to melt down, they'd melted down the water and tried to sell the water.
[01:07:27] So that, that was one where I just saw her on, I was doing research and I saw these guys were, were doing that. And I was like, this could be a good idea. So it was basically like all those stories. There's a team of researchers. Um, who were just trying to find anything to do anything zany, quirky, or weird to do in America.
[01:07:47] Um, so that was a lot of fun, but I did feel a little bit out of my depth at some of the times, because it was so new to me. Um, but it was a great experience. So then when you're researching and you find these things, who do you tell it to. [01:08:00] Yeah. Great. So there's this guy, the, the lead researcher or the lead producer, I suppose, is a guy called Tom Peterson.
[01:08:08] Who's a, he's a great guy guy who, uh, also is the, and I think a ride on Charlie Pickering's the week. Um, so he's a really like big TV producer. And so he is who I was reporting to and I just say, Hey, here's what I found. Here's what I think and hate. And. Hey, van goes to H and a, and the rest of radio karate and pitches them and comes back and says, can you find out more about this?
[01:08:35] Can you find out more about this? Um, so yeah, it's a really interesting, like I had no idea how any of those shows worked. And then I was kind of in the middle. So Hamish and Andy across kind of the broad ideas then, but they don't know which ones are going to be picked at the end. Oh, I say the final choices would come from H and H.
[01:08:56] So there'd be a pool. Yeah. I mean, like with each [01:09:00] other, like weren't, they secrets, some of them were secrets. Yeah. Some of them would be secrets. Yeah. Only one person. You see, you wouldn't discuss them in front of the other, but yeah. Some of them were like, yeah. Some of them they both know about. So yeah. Oh, man.
[01:09:14] Sounds so much fun. Yeah, it was really cool. All right. Well, I think that's pretty much all we've got time for, unless there's anything else you guys want to talk for longer than we said, I just assumed we were going for the rest of
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[01:09:55] You have the right shows. I, and you can listen to my [01:10:00] podcast. Century boy, if you like, and you can, and I assume we are all going to do this straight after this lesson to release the sounds and it's on Spotify and Apple music and YouTube. So you can do that and you can buy the fire. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think our website's up any, I don't want to say if you want to buy a CD, DM me on instant radio dot Mike and I'll I'll, I'll sort you out.
[01:10:26] I'll do you a good price? We just never really need to get rid of these lawsuits, these guys. Alright, man. Thanks so much for coming on. Definitely check out the 20th century. Boy, it's a great podcast. I love it. Jess has got the Spotify. Thanks guys. Thanks man. Thank you. Bye.