Crystal Andrews on Zee Feed, Media Ownership & Boxing/
- October 13, 2020
Crystal is the founder of Zee Feed, an independent digital publisher breaking down news, pop culture and social issues young Aussies really care about in language they actually understand.
In this episode we chat about her podcast Debatable, avoiding echo chambers by broadening your news consumption, the Royal Commission into the Murdoch Press and Crystal’s charity boxing match!
On this episode of Hump Day Replay:
- Working full time for yourself
- Debatable podcast
- Work addiction
- Balancing left & right leaning news consumption
- David Attenborough’s ‘A Life On Our Planet’
- Royal Commission into the Murdoch Press
- The Budget & JobMaker
- Crystal’s charity boxing match
- Ryan Shelton’s nod to Hump Day Replay
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This is produced by BIG MEDIA COMPANY.
EP-16 Edit - 01
[00:00:00] GB: [00:00:00] I'm sorry. Replay the show about the daily talk show. We're here with the usual crude and, and Jess and grace. And we've got author, founder of Z feed and host of debatable podcast. Crystal Andrews.
[00:00:29] Crystal Andrews: [00:00:29] Hi, I am so stoked to be on a podcast that I am in the intro is a real career highlight.
[00:00:42] GB: [00:00:42] Gotcha. So you've actually been on every single episode that we've done.
[00:00:49] Crystal Andrews: [00:00:49] I'm ready for my crown.
[00:00:52] GB: [00:00:52] I can't actually remember what that was. It was about on the daily talk. So what did you want in hump dairy play?
[00:00:57] Crystal Andrews: [00:00:57] I can't remember some, some dumb thing that I said, that's the [00:01:00] way it went. It was one of the episodes, I think, during the like initial lockdown that the boys had recorded.
[00:01:06] And that's when your hump day, well, this was really about the hump day replay videos. Like the weekly recaps. That's what, that's what I wanted to be in. I got what I wanted.
[00:01:17] GB: [00:01:17] Just stuck with this instead. What's going on? How's that? How's Sydney, Sydney life,
[00:01:24] Crystal Andrews: [00:01:24] life is pretty great, actually. Like, I mean, I feel bad cause all of you guys are in Melbourne and I think still.
[00:01:31] Relatively locked down. Right. But over here, here, it's kind of, you know, we're managing it. People are out and about, you know, you've got your contact tracing, checking into like every restaurant or bar or whatever that you go to. So I think people are just kind of trying to deal, um, It's not, it's not so bad.
[00:01:47] And the weather has been beautiful. So, you know, everyone's out and about in the suburbs.
[00:01:51] GB: [00:01:51] And why can't we, what do you think went wrong for us?
[00:01:57] Crystal Andrews: [00:01:57] Hi mate. Where did you [00:02:00] start? How long is the list? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:04] Mr. 97: [00:02:04] I mean, it is, it is a big, um, it is a big topic, but also like, yeah, it is, it is annoying. Like at least the weather for us is like picking up.
[00:02:13] Crystal Andrews: [00:02:13] Well, and now, and now you can kind of meet with a few more people, right. And you can be, have a little bit more time outside. Yeah.
[00:02:19] GB: [00:02:19] I mean, hopefully we can all hang out for Mason's birthday, which is
[00:02:24] Mr. 97: [00:02:24] November one.
[00:02:26] GB: [00:02:26] What do you reckon the chances are that they'll ease by then?
[00:02:31] Mr. 97: [00:02:31] We've got an announcement on what, like the 19th or whatever, and then maybe from there there'll be something
[00:02:39] Crystal Andrews: [00:02:39] actually,
[00:02:40] Jess Lucas: [00:02:40] which is good.
[00:02:41] That's fair enough.
[00:02:42] GB: [00:02:42] Is it
[00:02:43] Jess Lucas: [00:02:43] a Sunday?
[00:02:44] GB: [00:02:44] Yeah, they're not. Yeah. Great.
[00:02:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:02:45] Yeah. Do you have a contingency plan, Mason, of like the different levels of celebration that you would, it's almost like you need a match, what your party is to what level of restriction you got?
[00:02:57] Mr. 97: [00:02:57] Well, I mean, sure. Yeah. I mean, Whoa, I [00:03:00] think we might be able to get away.
[00:03:02] So, I mean, there's an option where we could do like groups at a park and you just have your own little cluster and it's like a big, uh, socially distance group like that, or it could be virtual or if they do ISA restrictions, then we can have maybe 10 people. And so that's everyone. Hey, I'm saying
[00:03:23] Crystal Andrews: [00:03:23] it's perfect.
[00:03:25] Does it just become like the most exclusive party of the year. Like it's really, really VIP and maybe you could have like, could people win. Like, could you have a competition? And you can like when entry to Mason's 21st, I think that would be cool.
[00:03:41] Mr. 97: [00:03:41] That wouldn't be fair. Right? The only problem with that is if it's 10 people, then one person from PMC needs to be kicked out.
[00:03:49] Jess Lucas: [00:03:49] Oh really?
[00:03:50] Mr. 97: [00:03:50] Yeah. I think draws straw. Yeah. We have to draw straws. Yeah.
[00:03:53] GB: [00:03:53] Yeah. Can we do shifts.
[00:03:56] Grace Peris: [00:03:56] Oh, could do shifts.
[00:03:58] GB: [00:03:58] I mean, as long as the two hour rule is
[00:04:00] [00:04:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:04:00] apply.
[00:04:02] Mr. 97: [00:04:02] Yeah. There's a lot of planning that goes into it.
[00:04:04] GB: [00:04:04] Oh man. What do you reckon, crystal? The odds of the borders being open by Christmas, our new South Wales borders.
[00:04:12] Crystal Andrews: [00:04:12] Um, well I think there was an announcement. Just recently about Tasmania. They're opening up to all of the other, like WOA Northern territory, South Australia and Queensland. And then they're going to reconsider, or they're going to announce another strategy about new South Wales in a cup in a week. And then they're going to talk about Victoria.
[00:04:32] Beginning of November or December or something. So I don't know. I feel like there's movement. I'm like grace, I'm from Perth. I'm from WWI and the border stance. There is pretty hardline. I don't think that's changing any
[00:04:46] Grace Peris: [00:04:46] time. Then it's hard to say other States having that, the conversation about opening borders and, and what they're gonna do.
[00:04:54] And it's kind of just like a hot, no, From the WWI. So
[00:05:00] [00:05:00] GB: [00:05:00] did they say it was a hard note till like January or something? Isn't it? Is that what they said? Or
[00:05:04] Crystal Andrews: [00:05:04] it's like April looking into
[00:05:06] Grace Peris: [00:05:06] next year, April and then latest June or something like that,
[00:05:10] Crystal Andrews: [00:05:10] but that's
[00:05:10] Grace Peris: [00:05:10] sort of depended on case numbers and things like that over here.
[00:05:14] Crystal Andrews: [00:05:14] So. Well, they want 28 days of no community transmission, which is obviously going to be a pretty hard task to achieve. Yeah.
[00:05:25] Jess Lucas: [00:05:25] It's just their ploy to, um, get rid of the rest of Australia. They want to become their own
[00:05:29] GB: [00:05:29] country.
[00:05:31] Crystal Andrews: [00:05:31] They do.
[00:05:33] Mr. 97: [00:05:33] I mean, speaking of announcements. Uh, crystal, you've had a couple of your own new website launch and going out on your own, the website looks great by the way.
[00:05:43] Crystal Andrews: [00:05:43] Thanks. The jury
[00:05:45] Mr. 97: [00:05:45] definitely deserves a clap during the week though, we, we did speak about some things like where we've been uncomfortable in our lives and sort of like challenging yourself. And I think JB has got a little snippets
[00:06:00] [00:05:59] Crystal Andrews: [00:05:59] play
[00:06:01] GB: [00:06:01] shepherd for me was, yeah. Uh, confronting because I hadn't done all these things.
[00:06:06] It's so much new stuff. And so you and I are navigating a whole bunch of new stuff, which he's uncomfortable. Doesn't mean it's bad. You want to feel like you're at capacity. Like it feels like you want to, like, I think about the
[00:06:22] Crystal Andrews: [00:06:22] times where I've
[00:06:24] GB: [00:06:24] lived. And really like, you
[00:06:26] Crystal Andrews: [00:06:26] know, being really proud of myself.
[00:06:29] It's in times where I have been uncomfortable.
[00:06:32] GB: [00:06:32] It's it's a weird one because we're like, it's almost like, yes, we're suckers for pain. A lot of greatness comes out of when was the last time that you felt that you've switched off probably last Christmas, but then let's
[00:06:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:06:45] look at this fucking year, never getting to really switch off.
[00:06:48] GB: [00:06:48] We can't do holidays, but we should at least consider
[00:06:51] Crystal Andrews: [00:06:51] annual leave
[00:06:52] GB: [00:06:52] when needed. It's a smaller team like ours. We can actually just have a meeting about like, who wants to take what, where yeah. That's it. That's a great [00:07:00] idea. So how long have you been doing your own thing and like, what is, what does that entail?
[00:07:07] Crystal Andrews: [00:07:07] Uh, it's been full time now for pretty much just over a month. Yeah. Um, so it's all pretty, pretty fresh, really exciting. Um, I've listened to that episode, uh, of the clip that you just played and it's funny. Cause I actually think I haven't got to the uncomfortable part yet. I almost feel. Like, I am almost living in this little bliss state because up until, you know, a month ago I was working full time and then running Zee feed on the side, which was just like burning the candle at both ends on an unbelievable scale.
[00:07:41] Like I was so fucking tired. It just, I think, got to a point where I was starting to do everything really badly. Um, and so when I. Was made redundant from work. It was a day of kind of shock because it was a little bit unexpected. But once that first day had passed, I was like, this is actually early. And I'm going to be able to [00:08:00] focus on one thing and just give it all of my energy and give it everything which had been in wanting to do I think for a little while and gave me the push.
[00:08:08] So if anything, I'd think, um, I'm sort of still. Just like loving being able to, to put all my energy towards it and feeling actually quite rested because I'm not doing, you know, crazy, uh, 18 hour days or whatever anymore. Oh
[00:08:23] GB: [00:08:23] yeah, for sure. I mean, you're going,
[00:08:26] Mr. 97: [00:08:26] Oh no. I was about to say so like the, that, that moment of.
[00:08:30] The realization where you're just like, Oh yeah, I can actually spend all this time on Z feet and put all your energy into it as opposed to splitting it. What was that like?
[00:08:39] Crystal Andrews: [00:08:39] Oh, it was just the best, the best feeling. And almost like too many. My brain just started to get flooded with all these ideas because when you're operating on limited time, it's just an obvious.
[00:08:49] Choice that you go, okay, I've only got so much time, we're going list of priority. What do I think will have the most impact? We only do those things, but now it's like every day is such an opportunity. I could do so [00:09:00] many things. I've got like a content plan up on my wall, which is way too ambitious. Like I've almost gone to the other end where it's like I could do with this and this and this and this not realistic, but I'm definitely getting more done than I was before that
[00:09:13] GB: [00:09:13] how's the, um, how's the podcast going?
[00:09:16] Crystal Andrews: [00:09:16] I am still having so much fun doing it. It's um, It's been quite a journey. Like I don't know anything about editing audio. It still probably sounds not amazing. I'd hate to like here. Um, Mason, your production value is probably shocking, but it's great. It's sound good.
[00:09:39] Grace Peris: [00:09:39] That's very good. I was listening to it this morning, actually.
[00:09:42] So good.
[00:09:43] GB: [00:09:43] I feel like we started our podcast pretty much around the same time. I think we've done like the same amount of
[00:09:49] Crystal Andrews: [00:09:49] the same day. I'm pretty sure. I was like, damn, I'm launching on Friday, half day re-pay launch day. This is never gonna work out for me. Is it.
[00:10:01] [00:10:00] GB: [00:10:01] No, it's a great podcast. We, um, yeah, but there's like so much stuff going on right now. Like how do you, how do you switch off at all?
[00:10:09] Crystal Andrews: [00:10:09] Uh, I'm the worst person to ask about this because I know that I should, um, and everybody should, but I. I don't think I do a very good job of it. Um, the only way that I would say that I really kind of like force my mind off it is now like have awakened my boyfriend and I sit down, um, to like have dinner and watch them on the couch.
[00:10:30] I'm always like, can we watch a comedy? Like, can we watch something funny? And he's. Actually just last weekend said, why do you always want to watch, like always asking to watch like some day I'm like, not even a good comedy, just something stupid, but it's definitely because everything that I deal with now, like on a daily basis is quite dense and it's heavy.
[00:10:50] And it's like, you've, I don't know. You just have to give it so much brain power to even figure out like what's going on that. When it comes to the weekends, I'm just like Saturday night, just [00:11:00] let me watch some comedian stat. It's like, literally like the clown needs to perform for me now because I have to switch my brain off.
[00:11:09] GB: [00:11:09] But then when Trump comes on the TV and does something ridiculous, then straight back onto the computer and Fridays. That's great. How do you do that?
[00:11:18] Crystal Andrews: [00:11:18] I think the little niche I'm trying to carve out for C feed is more about explaining the news rather than reporting. And that is a deliberate decision because right now I'm just one person operating from a dining table in a spare room.
[00:11:33] So I don't have a huge of resources, but there's also like so many, any other fully resourced, well established news outlets that are. You know, they're doing this 24 seven, they're breaking news. That's what they're there to do. So I don't think it serves me to kind of like jump into that game of being first and being fast.
[00:11:51] I almost want to deliberately pause, take a step back, wait for more information to come out. Um, and my kind of [00:12:00] thing in the niche, I'm kind of sorry. You know, sort of trying to carve out is saying, okay, I'm going to contextualize everything. I'm going to bring together the various different bits and pieces that have all come out in separate articles, separate reports, like in any other news outlet, that would be seven different articles, but I'm going to bring that together into one page.
[00:12:21] Um, so while I, I might like, if something happens, I might jump on my phone and follow what's happening. I've kind of been smart in meaning in making it so that I don't need to jump on the computer and start typing straight away, because I just think is one person, like, it's just, it's too hard to do
[00:12:38] Grace Peris: [00:12:38] you think that's one way of like, dealing with the potential I've WellMed that may come from having to be the first
[00:12:46] Crystal Andrews: [00:12:46] to
[00:12:46] Grace Peris: [00:12:46] report on something or, or to stop yourself from, from, if you have good all these ideas of what you want to do, being that.
[00:12:55] Being purposeful and going right. Stop we'll stop and do what we. And then look at [00:13:00] everything and then go ahead. Do you think that's the one way of overcoming overwhelm?
[00:13:03] Crystal Andrews: [00:13:03] Yeah, absolutely. And even, you know, kind of lines up with what Josh and Tommy have been speaking about with growing their business. It's it's a long game, not a short game.
[00:13:14] Um, it's not a sprint and. Short term growth is, is great. And we'll get you so far, but that's probably not sustainable. Um, I think it's kind of one way, but yeah, I'm, I'm definitely not the person to ask about strategies for managing oval.
[00:13:31] Mr. 97: [00:13:31] What I did. I did see one of them actually. It was, it was actually very cool and I think great actually messaged you about it.
[00:13:38] It was those coloring in. Uh, thanks for like a body and anatomy. Like, it was very like very
[00:13:44] Crystal Andrews: [00:13:44] cool. Yeah. So my, um, my psychologist has said to me that I have, um, work addiction, I guess. And she was like, but you also just have this like, well, I think a lot of people would [00:14:00] have listening would probably experience this as well.
[00:14:02] You have this like, Very intense relationship with achievement and success. And it's like being on that hamster wheel of like always having to hit another achievement and always needing to do something impressive. Um, so she was like, you know, You need a hobby. Basically you need a life. You have to be careful that the hobby that you choose, isn't just another thing that you can turn into a competitive task.
[00:14:27] So if you pick up a sport, that's not really helpful to you to unwind. If you then become really focused on being like awesome at that sport. So you have to find something that's like, At a disconnect for your brain, from the work that you're doing, but that you also cannot get competitive about. Um, so that is why I'm very late to the mind full coloring in trend.
[00:14:51] Um, and my boyfriend is a medical student, so he had this awesome, like download of yeah. Anatomical diagrams that they use to [00:15:00] like. You know, learn about the body and like learn all the different systems and stuff. So you supposed to color in like a certain, it's got labels on the side so that you like color in different body parts in like different colors to help you learn.
[00:15:11] I'm not learning about body. They're really cool diagrams. It's
[00:15:16] Grace Peris: [00:15:16] cotton of like the mindfulness of coloring. But if people do want to learn, I guess if this is probably not what your psych wants you to do, like learn to feel like you're learning something. Like, that's what I kind of missed you about it. I was like, Oh, that'd be a great way to like, learn something new about the body, rather than just the color in the mindfulness side of it.
[00:15:33] It was all, I could learn something from these. So
[00:15:36] Crystal Andrews: [00:15:36] I think the triceps,
[00:15:38] Jess Lucas: [00:15:38] I, like, I still have no
[00:15:38] Crystal Andrews: [00:15:38] idea.
[00:15:41] Grace Peris: [00:15:41] Ooh, coloring together.
[00:15:43] Crystal Andrews: [00:15:43] The one I shared was like a brain. It was like the brain and like the brainstem and Oh yeah. All that stuff is like, just. It's crazy. There's so many different sections. You've got to call it rain.
[00:15:54] GB: [00:15:54] So how do you measure success then if in a, with the Z feed and the
[00:15:58] Crystal Andrews: [00:15:58] Instagram [00:16:00] and the website? I have been trying to just think about the impact that I can make. I'm not huge right now. So it's kind of like, okay, you know, you're reaches a certain size. Like you're not going to be the biggest, you know, the biggest independent media player out there in like one month.
[00:16:16] That's not how it works. Um, but every message that I get of someone who says, yes, You know, that was really helpful. That helped me understand it. This is really good way of thinking about it. I think that's kind of where I that's what helps me keep going. Um, you know, because it's just like, that's, I'm trying to do what I would have wanted when I was starting out.
[00:16:37] Um, and when I'm kind of learning when I was learning to get involved in politics and like all these kinds of issues, you just want someone to explain it to you in language, you can understand. So if people are telling me that, that's what I'm doing, then. I think that's a nice time doing that.
[00:16:51] GB: [00:16:51] So everything is great.
[00:16:52] Like the aesthetic is so good. How did you, how long did it take to come up with that kind of look and those colors? And is that just something that comes naturally?
[00:17:02] [00:17:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:17:02] I had worked with a designer in the beginning who kind of just like laid out some broad brand guidelines in terms of like the colors she gave me, the fonts I can just, you know, gave like the framework for it.
[00:17:14] Um, but I probably horrify her every time I put together a post, because it's like just a mismatch mishmash of all these different elements she told me to use. Um, but I figure as long as people like it, it doesn't need to be too polished.
[00:17:27] GB: [00:17:27] I love it. I mean, you've got like sort of memes in there as well.
[00:17:31] Crystal Andrews: [00:17:31] I feel like we all need a laugh.
[00:17:33] Mr. 97: [00:17:33] Yeah. Well, I love the Instagram reels as well
[00:17:39] when it's like, I remember like the day that it was like rolling out or whatever you were going hard on it. It was just so great. I loved it
[00:17:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:17:45] a lot. Making little Instagram reels, like the rage on those. There's a hot tip for anyone. Who's like, .
[00:17:53] Grace Peris: [00:17:53] The ones you've done is so informative.
[00:17:55] Crystal Andrews: [00:17:55] And the ones I've been doing lately, I just dance me.
[00:17:58] Grace Peris: [00:17:58] Maybe the first ones you [00:18:00] did were very informed. I was like, how is she getting all this information in 15
[00:18:03] Crystal Andrews: [00:18:03] seconds? Like, do you know what it really taught me? Like, you guys probably would already know this, but. Tick tock seems like it's so easy to do, but then when you actually make a tick tock, it's really time consuming,
[00:18:18] Grace Peris: [00:18:18] dealt into that world.
[00:18:22] GB: [00:18:22] you have nothing to be addicted to have you
[00:18:25] Mr. 97: [00:18:25] done it? Yes.
[00:18:26] Crystal Andrews: [00:18:26] I mean, I haven't
[00:18:26] Jess Lucas: [00:18:26] done the proper ones, um, like that you're talking about, but I, I have made a couple of
[00:18:33] Crystal Andrews: [00:18:33] really
[00:18:33] Jess Lucas: [00:18:33] tick tock
[00:18:33] Crystal Andrews: [00:18:33] videos. Yeah.
[00:18:35] Jess Lucas: [00:18:35] And then I deleted them because there was a guy that I was kind of talking to and he
[00:18:39] Crystal Andrews: [00:18:39] wanted to follow me.
[00:18:41] Mr. 97: [00:18:41] Do you have them saved?
[00:18:42] Do you have them saved somewhere?
[00:18:44] Jess Lucas: [00:18:44] Yeah. You can keep the, I've got the drafts.
[00:18:46] Mr. 97: [00:18:46] Can we put it on hump day?
[00:18:48] Jess Lucas: [00:18:48] Absolutely.
[00:18:50] Crystal Andrews: [00:18:50] What challenges were you doing? Like challenges? Which ones were they.
[00:18:55] Jess Lucas: [00:18:55] Um, the, um, the Starlight one by, um, what's his [00:19:00] name
[00:19:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:19:00] buddy?
[00:19:00] Grace Peris: [00:19:00] Over there? Dancers.
[00:19:02] Jess Lucas: [00:19:02] Yeah.
[00:19:06] Crystal Andrews: [00:19:06] Yeah.
[00:19:07] Jess Lucas: [00:19:07] I can do the Carol Baskin husband. Well active.
[00:19:11] Crystal Andrews: [00:19:11] You it with Josh,
[00:19:16] Grace Peris: [00:19:16] Josh do the, um, yeah, the Carol Baskin ones.
[00:19:18] Mr. 97: [00:19:18] Yeah. There was a period of time where he went on, went hard on those ticks.
[00:19:22] GB: [00:19:22] He did a real, the other day. First real.
[00:19:24] Crystal Andrews: [00:19:24] I know
[00:19:25] GB: [00:19:25] with Bray, he messaged me saying I did my first real.
[00:19:29] Crystal Andrews: [00:19:29] I thought it was really funny. Isn't it?
[00:19:32] GB: [00:19:32] The editing was great. How it like loops. Yeah.
[00:19:35] It starts on the rewind section. And I've seen a lot of teak tokens. I mean, I didn't go and tick-tock, but I'd say the videos they'll start with like the ending almost. So it like catches your eye and then when it loops around then like, so in the video, the ending is. The intro. It's like a 40 year old.
[00:19:56] It's clever. Very clever.
[00:19:58] Crystal Andrews: [00:19:58] Yeah.
[00:19:59] Mr. 97: [00:19:59] It's just, you're watching a [00:20:00] loop.
[00:20:00] GB: [00:20:00] You're watching a loop. Yeah, exactly.
[00:20:02] Crystal Andrews: [00:20:02] It's basically like, you know, my space customizing your MySpace profile was like intro to coding for millennials. And I feel like to talk is intro to video production and editing for gen Z. Like when you've grown up with this, they're going to be so much better at this stuff by the time they're, you know, That is the time that's a real skill that you're going to use in work.
[00:20:24] Mr. 97: [00:20:24] Oh yeah.
[00:20:25] Jess Lucas: [00:20:25] Way more effects on tech talk then whatever you use
[00:20:29] Crystal Andrews: [00:20:29] me,
[00:20:30] GB: [00:20:30] like legit, like some of the effects you say on tick-tock would take me awake to do tracking
[00:20:37] Crystal Andrews: [00:20:37] and you know,
[00:20:38] Mr. 97: [00:20:38] yeah. It's pretty hectic.
[00:20:39] GB: [00:20:39] Yeah.
[00:20:40] Crystal Andrews: [00:20:40] Just move all your video, editing into tech talk. Now
[00:20:45] Mr. 97: [00:20:45] this episode of Hunter is produced.
[00:20:49] Jess Lucas: [00:20:49] Are you books after the daily torture talk page?
[00:20:52] Crystal Andrews: [00:20:52] Oh,
[00:20:53] Mr. 97: [00:20:53] Josh.
[00:20:53] Jess Lucas: [00:20:53] That's all good. It is him because I sometimes send videos. Yeah, well, I feel like it needs to be me. I sometimes send [00:21:00] videos there and I get no responses, which is bad because always be together is a very funny,
[00:21:07] GB: [00:21:07] Oh, so you, what do you mean you send videos there? Oh,
[00:21:09] Jess Lucas: [00:21:09] like I'll just, you know, if I find something funny, I forwarded on to everyone in my contacts list.
[00:21:15] Alright. I spend so much time on tech talk. It's you, if you just want to, if you just want to belly laugh, like you just feel down or flat or whatever, like just go on, take talk and make yourself laugh. Do you guys want me to, you guys should sign up and I'll send you like my top.
[00:21:29] Crystal Andrews: [00:21:29] I don't know if I want to sign
[00:21:31] Mr. 97: [00:21:31] up to be.
[00:21:33] Grace Peris: [00:21:33] My best friend said she's addicted to it.
[00:21:35] Jess Lucas: [00:21:35] So I literally connect to my TV for my car. And I just sit there some night. It's just like scrolling, scrolling through, say, this is my issue. I don't really watch TV shows, but I'd do stupid fundraising shit like this
[00:21:52] GB: [00:21:52] tick tock dress. Is that right?
[00:21:54] Jess Lucas: [00:21:54] Well, we went through a few nicknames.
[00:21:57] Crystal Andrews: [00:21:57] Did you,
[00:21:58] GB: [00:21:58] Jess messaged us saying she needs a [00:22:00] nickname.
[00:22:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:22:00] Oh, what are the options?
[00:22:02] Jess Lucas: [00:22:02] Well, There was a few like dye ones that you guys put into the Slack last night. But the reason that I want want is because we're writing out our buyers and I went to write mine and I was like, hang on a sec.
[00:22:14] I'm just boring old Jess. And like everyone have we got 97? We've got GB.
[00:22:20] Crystal Andrews: [00:22:20] And
[00:22:23] GB: [00:22:23] can I actually just say, can I make an announcement on, on Humpday replay? Oh, here we go. I've changed my, uh, Instagram name.
[00:22:31] Grace Peris: [00:22:31] Oh.
[00:22:35] Crystal Andrews: [00:22:35] Oh, I
[00:22:36] Mr. 97: [00:22:36] thought that would be great.
[00:22:37] GB: [00:22:37] That would be good. That's is
[00:22:40] Mr. 97: [00:22:40] definitely
[00:22:43] GB: [00:22:43] one way,
[00:22:44] Crystal Andrews: [00:22:44] right?
[00:22:46] GB: [00:22:46] Just to, you know, a bit of a
[00:22:47] Crystal Andrews: [00:22:47] rebrand, if you do that
[00:22:49] GB: [00:22:49] last night, when I was just before I fell asleep, I'm sorry.
[00:22:55] Crystal Andrews: [00:22:55] Yeah,
[00:22:57] GB: [00:22:57] that's huge. I thought Joshua would pick it up by now, but he [00:23:00] hasn't.
[00:23:01] Jess Lucas: [00:23:01] Yeah. Interesting. He's usually all over that stuff. I grow one follower and he's like,
[00:23:07] Crystal Andrews: [00:23:07] Jess, congratulations
[00:23:12] GB: [00:23:12] feed has got some like pretty big names. Like who's the most famous person following Z fade you reckon. Sorry. Foster Blake is I
[00:23:19] Mr. 97: [00:23:19] love name dropping.
[00:23:20] Crystal Andrews: [00:23:20] Yeah. SOE foster Blake is Laura Worthington is, and she was actually following it quite early, like before it, before it really grew, which was really exciting to me.
[00:23:33] I'm trying to think claimants. Oh God. I'm so I'm just famous. I mean
[00:23:40] GB: [00:23:40] yeah, that's pretty cool.
[00:23:43] Crystal Andrews: [00:23:43] It's. It's kind of mind-boggling, it's weird. It definitely comes with a different like responsibility and some days I would never wish way, you know, what I've got and, you know, it needs to keep going. Like it can always be bigger, but some days I [00:24:00] absolutely.
[00:24:00] I think this would be easier if it was just the 900 people there that it was at the beginning of the year. Like, it definitely, there's a different level of responsibility that you feel. And I, I don't know how people who have like hundreds of thousands of followers deal with it. I don't know yet
[00:24:18] Mr. 97: [00:24:18] for sure.
[00:24:19] I mean, it's even just like a couple of weeks ago, whatever. When, when Joe Rogan was sort of criticized for the false information that he was. Talking about on this podcast, like even looking at him, do the actual apology video, like right to the camera. Like the pressure of that just looked like real intense.
[00:24:37] Crystal Andrews: [00:24:37] Yeah. I'm waiting for the day that I get, I will get canceled that it's going to happen. And I know. Yeah. I don't know what it will be. I don't know if it will be something that I do in the future, or if it's something from the past that will be dug up. Maybe I'm a little paranoid, but I definitely know that I'll be called out for something.
[00:24:56] So I've just been really paying attention to other people's apologies and [00:25:00] figuring out what's good. What's bad writing. It already comes. I'll have a really good apology.
[00:25:06] GB: [00:25:06] I mean, do you get ahead of the curve? Like, do you. Do you bring it up when you, if you know you said something slightly off, do you wait until someone calls it out or do you get, get in there first?
[00:25:16] Crystal Andrews: [00:25:16] I didn't know. I feel like the majority of people who get called out like that, though, don't realize. That the thing that they said or did or whatever, like it's, it's not actually being aware that it's been jarring to people or that it's offended people or whatever. So I'm not even sure if you fully can get in front of it, because if you don't know, then you can't.
[00:25:35] Hmm. Hmm.
[00:25:37] Jess Lucas: [00:25:37] What do you think you could possibly be though?
[00:25:39] Crystal Andrews: [00:25:39] Oh, I have so many controversial opinions. Yes. Is having
[00:25:44] Grace Peris: [00:25:44] controversial
[00:25:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:25:45] opinions, a bad thing. Like,
[00:25:48] Grace Peris: [00:25:48] you know, like if they're. I mean, obviously there are some controversial opinions that
[00:25:54] Crystal Andrews: [00:25:54] I would disagree with,
[00:25:55] Grace Peris: [00:25:55] but if you have differing opinions,
[00:25:57] Crystal Andrews: [00:25:57] that's not a bad thing.
[00:26:00] [00:25:59] Yeah. I
[00:26:02] GB: [00:26:02] like
[00:26:03] Crystal Andrews: [00:26:03] putting in fake news. Yeah. Well, I'm definitely sorry. Yeah, I know what you mean. I think it's not, it's not so much like differing differing opinions, but I definitely like say things. To my boyfriend that I would never repeat.
[00:26:19] GB: [00:26:19] So if you get canceled it's
[00:26:29] well, so that's where we get our news from Z feed. And Josh has been trying to figure out where. He's going to get his news from. So here's a little snippet from, from that. We've seen a huge shift just in our lifetime of, of things that we didn't even focus on, but have become a real focal point for it, you know, as you become.
[00:26:49] So I wonder, I wonder when I get older
[00:26:52] Crystal Andrews: [00:26:52] with our OB scene, As like a consumer, like more conservative is funny
[00:26:57] GB: [00:26:57] to think about you as an old conservative.
[00:26:59] Crystal Andrews: [00:26:59] Yeah. [00:27:00] I'm trying to work out a way to watch all of the news, like your singing ends and stuff. Does anyone have a good solution where it's not going to cost me that much, but I can have it just on an absorbable that sort of terrible things.
[00:27:14] I just want it. Just sort of sitting in my brain. Like my,
[00:27:20] GB: [00:27:20] my favorite
[00:27:20] Crystal Andrews: [00:27:20] thing to do was to go on holidays and then be in the hotel room, in the air
[00:27:24] GB: [00:27:24] con
[00:27:25] Crystal Andrews: [00:27:25] we've seen him what CNN on looking up at the holidays
[00:27:28] GB: [00:27:28] to go on
[00:27:31] Crystal Andrews: [00:27:31] we're in
[00:27:31] GB: [00:27:31] Dubai. Like
[00:27:32] Crystal Andrews: [00:27:32] let's just go out. And like, it was like,
[00:27:34] GB: [00:27:34] nah,
[00:27:35] Crystal Andrews: [00:27:35] I reckon let's go on to our math list and find where the next one is going to be
[00:27:43] GB: [00:27:43] at the start of that. Do you think that, um, people get. I, because things are changing all the time and like, will we be seen as kind of conservative in the future? If we're, if we feel like we've got progressive, progressive ideas now?
[00:27:59] Crystal Andrews: [00:27:59] Oh yeah, for [00:28:00] sure. I think the goalposts move all the time. It just happens.
[00:28:04] Um, and you know, there's, there's a theory as well. Like the more that we, um, address some of these issues that are like, you know, nobody would argue. Against being wrong. And the more we kind of like heal the systemic issues, the more that it unveils another layer that's beneath that and the problems kind of get more and more specific and more and more.
[00:28:27] I'm not sure. Well, it's not the right word, but you know, our tolerance for what is absolutely unacceptable keeps refining down and that's just like something that will always happen. Yeah. I absolutely think that. In
[00:28:42] GB: [00:28:42] Joshua B an old conservative guy.
[00:28:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:28:45] I mean, that's not super hard to imagine, but you know, we'll all be, I've just, yeah.
[00:28:51] I wonder all the time, like, what would my grandkids think of this era? And there's probably something that they, that they look back and think, Oh, I can't believe [00:29:00] you guys didn't realize, and didn't change this, but it's just, you know, it's different.
[00:29:04] GB: [00:29:04] It's so true. Well, this is what I was thinking about watching the Attenborough DACA the other day, like.
[00:29:11] God, I feel like it's, it's the 18 year olds now who are riding into that sort of, hopefully they can just save it for us because
[00:29:20] Mr. 97: [00:29:20] I don't know because
[00:29:20] Crystal Andrews: [00:29:20] I'm not doing shit about
[00:29:21] GB: [00:29:21] it. Yeah. I mean that like once all the oldies die.
[00:29:30] Yeah. It's the kids that are finishing school now who are climate activists and all that stuff that I feel like I got such a great understanding of this and hopefully they can. I can say that
[00:29:41] Grace Peris: [00:29:41] they're the ones that are going to have, as he said in the documentary, they're the ones that they're going to have to deal with.
[00:29:46] Crystal Andrews: [00:29:46] I know,
[00:29:46] Grace Peris: [00:29:46] you know, the consequences of how whey and the generations before us have acted. So. Like no wonder they are so into climate change and climate, you know, they are climate activists because that's the world they're going to live in.
[00:30:00] [00:30:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:00] It's almost not optional. Yes, exactly. They have
[00:30:03] Grace Peris: [00:30:03] to take action.
[00:30:03] They have to take a stand on it. So, yeah, it's
[00:30:06] GB: [00:30:06] awful. It was such a good doco though. Have you seen it?
[00:30:09] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:09] I haven't. Not yet.
[00:30:11] Mr. 97: [00:30:11] Definitely put it on the list, price cried last night. I was, I was in tears as well. Like my eyes were just watering
[00:30:17] Grace Peris: [00:30:17] now thinking about yet
[00:30:20] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:20] the kids,
[00:30:21] Grace Peris: [00:30:21] like if I'm lucky to have kids, but my kids will have to experience.
[00:30:24] And then
[00:30:24] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:24] if
[00:30:25] Grace Peris: [00:30:25] they're lucky to have kids, what they'll experience we'll have to deal with. If we don't do something about it.
[00:30:29] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:29] So yeah.
[00:30:31] Jess Lucas: [00:30:31] Maybe wanting kids cause I'm like, do I want to bring them into this world? But I mean, we, we should fix, try and fix it
[00:30:38] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:38] right.
[00:30:39] Jess Lucas: [00:30:39] We jumped to conclusions like that,
[00:30:41] GB: [00:30:41] but it is possible that the DACA ended with hope.
[00:30:46] And, um,
[00:30:47] Crystal Andrews: [00:30:47] sorry, I probably just ruined it for your Christmas but you know, I think it's also like, I mean one David Attenborough is absolutely a global treasure and just [00:31:00] a phenomenal, phenomenal human being. Um, but I think it's also like, you know what he's saying and what the story that he's telling. Isn't a new one and he's told.
[00:31:09] This he's had the same message and told this same, same story so many times. Um, but it doesn't hurt to hear it again. And it doesn't hurt to be optimistic about these things because otherwise what's the point. Like if we don't think that we can fix it well, then we may as well just give up right now and we might as well just lay over, like roll over and die
[00:31:31] Mr. 97: [00:31:31] Yeah, for sure. And the thing is like Netflix being that global platform where he can actually convey the message as well. Like I think that's right. Even from like his point of view from going from like a real localized BBC channel, that's just broadcasting somewhere in the UK to be able to go across the world with Netflix.
[00:31:49] I mean, grace and I, after, I mean, just on Josh's stuff, he actually did find, uh, uh, like a subscriber essentially freight, but a channel suggested [00:32:00] by dr. K in the U S and he can watch CNN, but it did prompt. Um, grace and myself to just start dialing in our news consumption. And you posted an article a while ago and Z feed about how to understand the news.
[00:32:16] And I had like the, the sort of, almost timeline of like left and right. And where the news organizations sit within that. And I guess, like, what were you sort of trying to convey with that? Like what should people be doing? With their consumption of news.
[00:32:34] Crystal Andrews: [00:32:34] So the real thing that I wanted to get across that is that all news outlets will have some kind of bias and that's not necessarily wrong per se, because everybody in everything has biased.
[00:32:49] Like it's really, really hard to be completely neutral. Um, so that just means that we need to be aware of what it is. And it means that if you're only consuming from, um, [00:33:00] sources that. Have a really similar stance and a really similar view, you could be missing out on lots of information and you definitely exist in like, can echo chamber where you're just getting fed the same kind of story over and over again.
[00:33:13] So the advice that was in that article was basically basically just like, look at this spectrum. And if your favorite news site is on the left, Pick one other new site that's on the right and just commit to reading that regularly. So you kind of get a flavor for what the other side is and vice versa. If your favorite news site happens to be on the right side of the spectrum, pick somewhere on the left and you don't have to agree with what they're saying, but you should at least know what it's, what the other narrative is, because otherwise you just won't be able to spot the patterns that are maybe twisting the information that you might receive.
[00:33:47] Um, and, and, and all sources do it. Like it's, it's really hard to not do that.
[00:33:53] GB: [00:33:53] Yeah. Tyler,
[00:33:57] Grace Peris: [00:33:57] when with looking at Z fade and what to put on [00:34:00] Zepeda,
[00:34:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:34:00] you pulling from. All
[00:34:02] Grace Peris: [00:34:02] sources on that kind of timeline or like you've got to
[00:34:05] Crystal Andrews: [00:34:05] a
[00:34:05] Mr. 97: [00:34:05] film. Yeah. There's copious amounts of research in that, like, what is the collation process
[00:34:12] Crystal Andrews: [00:34:12] starts one browser window where you'll like search, I search a key, you know, whatever.
[00:34:19] I'm trying to find a key phrase. And then, I mean, this isn't, I don't think this is interesting. I'm sure everybody researches like this, but then I just like pick a few of the sites that I. No, and like, and find that I easily understand. And so I like open a bunch of those in a new tab. And then if most of the, those are from a certain persuasion of, and like go through the Google list and find the ones who might be yeah.
[00:34:44] Opposite offering different opinions, and then I'll open those in a bunch of new tabs. And then I'll just kind of go to more of like, I really like going to read it. Actually. I love Reddit
[00:34:58] well, I mean, everyone's obsessed with MIV [00:35:00] asshole at the moment. Absolutely.
[00:35:02] Mr. 97: [00:35:02] I love,
[00:35:03] Crystal Andrews: [00:35:03] Oh, you know, you guys need to look at MIB asshole. People, people anonymously send in situations where people in the lives that their lives are saying, like, you're an asshole for doing this and they explain it all. And then everyone on Reddit.
[00:35:17] Wising and decides whether or not they're an asshole.
[00:35:20] Jess Lucas: [00:35:20] That's just like the classic pub test. Isn't it?
[00:35:22] Crystal Andrews: [00:35:22] Yes. That's okay.
[00:35:25] GB: [00:35:25] Always end up with just, yes, you are.
[00:35:27] Crystal Andrews: [00:35:27] No, there's a real mix and some of the situations are wild. Yeah, absolutely loud. But from a research point of view, I think Reddit's good for finding out.
[00:35:39] You know exactly, as you said, just the pub test, like what do people actually think and what are the opinions, even if I don't agree with them. Um, cause that kind of like helps you figure out what questions you need to answer to fill in the gaps. And then it's just a shitload of rating. You just have to rate everything.
[00:35:53] There's no real way around it. Unfortunately,
[00:35:56] Mr. 97: [00:35:56] we, we also love talking about note taking apps, any, any [00:36:00] recommendations.
[00:36:01] Crystal Andrews: [00:36:01] No I'm so I don't use any of these like productivity hacks, like streamlined services. It's it's literally like a Google doc. And I just, what about
[00:36:16] GB: [00:36:16] making the Instagram post? Is it Photoshop or.
[00:36:19] Crystal Andrews: [00:36:19] Yeah. Photoshop.
[00:36:20] GB: [00:36:20] Yeah. Great.
[00:36:21] Crystal Andrews: [00:36:21] Yeah. I think I learned how to use Photoshop and InDesign when I was, um, editing a magazine like years and years ago, and then I just never learned any other apps and now, yeah, that's fine.
[00:36:34] GB: [00:36:34] Um, what's the deal? I don't know if this is too much, but Gladys what's going on with her.
[00:36:40] I only saw a few headlines this morning, but I haven't actually. Really looked into it.
[00:36:44] Crystal Andrews: [00:36:44] Helpline is, um, a, uh, political figure. I've forgotten his first name already, but the last name is McGuire and he was, I think the MP for Waga, um, is being investigated for corruption [00:37:00] basically. Um, as part of that investigation, It's come out that she has had very close ties to this person.
[00:37:09] Um, so they're basically trying to find out whether or not she, the extent of the corruption, whether or not she knew anything about it. Obviously, if she did, you know, that's career ending as it should be. Um, but if she didn't, she didn't, uh, as these things go in the course of this investigation, it was kind of like questioned the nature of their relationship and their relationship was a, um, Saucy one.
[00:37:36] Mr. 97: [00:37:36] It's very impressive that, you know, that just like it's very cool. The other. Yeah, because none of us know the Royal commission. Into the Murdoch media. What's what's the deal with that?
[00:37:50] Crystal Andrews: [00:37:50] That's Maven fig. So I'm actually working on a big explainer on that for XE feed. Oh gosh. I need to like collect my positioning and making sure I get this.
[00:38:00] [00:37:59] All right. So basically this is a spoiler alert. Anyone who listens to this still needs to go read the article cause I still need the views. Okay. I'm a bit Kevin rod. Is calling for a Royal commission into the concentration of media ownership in Australia. Basically Australia actually does have a very concentrated media landscape, which just means that all of the different outlets like TV stations, radio networks, they're actually owned by a much smaller group of companies that you would think.
[00:38:36] So news Corp Australia, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, which is why they call it. Like Murdoch media. Uh, I think news Corp owns over two, so it's like 65% of all of them, the print news media in the country. Um, and that's just the one company. And then the next biggest is nine entertainment co, which bought Fairfax last year.
[00:38:57] So then they own pretty much all of the other [00:39:00] newspapers. Um, so two companies pretty much control. It's the news output of the, of the country
[00:39:08] Jess Lucas: [00:39:08] and the broader, the other issue is that I think, um, the Murdoch's son is at Laughlin Ahrens, part of Fairfax as well. And traditionally then our in for news Corp and that being a right wing, kind of, uh, Network I suppose, but yeah, having that access to Fairfax as well, it's not great.
[00:39:28] Crystal Andrews: [00:39:28] Yeah. It's, I mean, it's like any basic business principle in any industry competition is good for consumers. Um, and that's basically the, that's the crux of the whole thing. If all the media is owned by two, you know, two players, that's a duopoly, like, is that good for consumers? Um, and obviously the political influence that comes with.
[00:39:50] Two companies that, uh, Have quite similar kind of conservative leanings and political affiliations. Not amazing. Yes.
[00:39:59] Mr. 97: [00:39:59] So, I [00:40:00] mean, I remember like there was a Royal commission into the banks, like the big four or whatever, like what, what could be some of the potential outcomes where they just look at it?
[00:40:10] More regulation around ownership and just sort of dividing that up.
[00:40:14] Crystal Andrews: [00:40:14] Yeah. I think this Royal commission absolutely will not happen. Um, it's very kind of tricky one to navigate and I mean, the government, it's hard for them to kind of go in and start regulating this area too much. Cause then that doesn't look good as well, but it would, it would need to be some sort of.
[00:40:36] Um, some sort of regulation, there are a few laws that already exist that try to kind of put a cap on, on too much of the media lying with one company, but they can only kind of go so far. There's probably some anti-competitive stuff that, um, that could be done, but I don't know what that looks like just yet.
[00:40:54] And then the, the shit thing and all of this is that it's coming at the same time. That there [00:41:00] is, um, a separate media battle going on between all of the Australian publishers and Google and Facebook, basically, which they're trying to get a Google and Facebook to pay for news in this country. So there's like a lot going on a lot.
[00:41:15] And then there's a lot going on in the U S
[00:41:17] Grace Peris: [00:41:17] didn't they just hand down or give the findings of the, um, Like the F or the CEO's whatever, like Facebook, Amazon, Google, that's all kind of just come out recently.
[00:41:29] Crystal Andrews: [00:41:29] Yeah. I haven't been following that as, as kind of closely. Um, but I think that's a similar sort of there it's an anti competitive investigation and trust.
[00:41:40] Yeah. To see if they're blocking it's the same thing. Like, just to say, if they're blocking competitors from entering those markets, which. It's a fine line to balance because on the one hand, competition's good. On the other hand, is it penalizing, you know, companies for being very successful? That's the kind of line that they [00:42:00] have to.
[00:42:02] Yeah. It's a lot that wasn't fun.
[00:42:08] GB: [00:42:08] On the budget stuff.
[00:42:14] getting all
[00:42:15] Crystal Andrews: [00:42:15] my news from crystal.
[00:42:17] GB: [00:42:17] Like how are we going to get out of all that? It's a big question. How are they going to get out of all this? Debt. And this might sound like a dumb one, but who are we in debt to? Like, how does the, um,
[00:42:27] Mr. 97: [00:42:27] how does cash work
[00:42:31] GB: [00:42:31] like that? The RBA and stuff work?
[00:42:33] Crystal Andrews: [00:42:33] Oh, you guys are definitely better off speaking to an economic economics.
[00:42:37] I'm not even going to like go, I'm not even gonna go into it. Right.
[00:42:44] GB: [00:42:44] Job maker. So they started this job maker scheme, right? Yeah. Isn't it couldn't could it be possible that, so basically the way it works is that going to pay people, uh, um, a bit of cash to hire younger people that are on welfare, [00:43:00] for example, with like fast food chains and stuff where there's a lot of like low, skilled, older people working.
[00:43:05] Do you think that they're going to fire all those people and then hire the younger people for, for cheap? You know what I mean? Like businesses will be able to get $400 cash at wake. And the liberal party will come out and say, look at all these new jobs we've created, but. Do you think that like, are they going to be firing a lot of people?
[00:43:28] Crystal Andrews: [00:43:28] Yeah. I guess it's hard to say, like, you kind of hope you hope that, um, businesses take it in, in sort of in the way that it's intended and don't try to like play those games, but I mean, any regulation or any policy that gets brought in there are always loopholes. There are always people who are going to try to exploit it.
[00:43:50] Um, you know, I don't. I don't really know whether the budget on the whole is like good or bad for the purpose that, um, is [00:44:00] intended, which I think is an important thing. Like, but that the purpose of this budget specifically is to try and stop the bleeding of our session and get us out of it. So it may be, is not, um, as like longterm as other budgets or is that people had kind of hoped it would be, it's got like one very specific purpose.
[00:44:17] Um, but you know, having said that, like, I guess if the information was that young workers were disproportionately affected by coronavirus pandemic, and it was the industries that young people are employed in that were hit the hardest as I kind of look at it, it's like, this is the problem. So we created something to fix it.
[00:44:38] It's like whack-a-mole after that, like it's going to, there's always going to be new problems that pop up, but. Totally
[00:44:46] GB: [00:44:46] unprecedented. Right? I've never been in this situation.
[00:44:50] Crystal Andrews: [00:44:50] Exactly.
[00:44:51] GB: [00:44:51] Will there be another robo debt? Do you reckon?
[00:44:54] Crystal Andrews: [00:44:54] Okay. I really hope not. I really well, [00:45:00] you just have to, you just have to wait and say, like, I don't think, I, I think no matter what side of politics you're all in or, or what your beliefs are, I definitely don't believe that anyone goes into it.
[00:45:13] Thinking that they want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Shit happens along the way. I think the political process probably like makes, makes the participants quite jaded or it's very difficult. Like, I don't know. I've never been in politics, but I don't think anyone goes in thinking, Oh, how can I fuck up as many people as possible in this country that I love?
[00:45:32] Like no one thinks like that. I hope not. Well, not
[00:45:37] Jess Lucas: [00:45:37] like
[00:45:38] Crystal Andrews: [00:45:38] Trump does
[00:45:39] Jess Lucas: [00:45:39] maybe. Yeah.
[00:45:40] Crystal Andrews: [00:45:40] Who knows
[00:45:42] Grace Peris: [00:45:42] you covered the budget on your podcast? How do you come up with the, the podcast topics and like what, what the biggest is it the biggest news? Article
[00:45:52] Crystal Andrews: [00:45:52] the biggest news
[00:45:53] Grace Peris: [00:45:53] story recently, what's, what's your kind of thought process
[00:45:56] Crystal Andrews: [00:45:56] behind that.
[00:45:57] It's very much like what a people kind of [00:46:00] interested in and what do I mostly want to talk about? Um, so it feels like super self serving at the moment, which is probably not an amazing content strategy. Um, but like I was saying before, I'm trying not to, I'm trying to like cover a topic that people are talking about, but not doing just the same as every other publisher.
[00:46:19] So like not. I have a podcast where I go through, you know, every industry and whether or not they're getting money from the new budget, but we kind of took a step back and, and then said, okay, like, let's just look at the two strategies that were available, um, for the government to use in this budget. And just kind of explain what each of the main and what the pros and cons are, and then just let people make their minds up from there.
[00:46:43] Like I try not to. Tell people what to think too much. I really want to avoid that. And just as much as I can, while like managing my own bias, get the information, put it together an understandable way, and then just let it. Lie as it is, and kind [00:47:00] of just let people make up their own minds. Yeah,
[00:47:02] Grace Peris: [00:47:02] definitely do that.
[00:47:03] I do like the solar episodes because you start like one point of view, go to the other and then kind of come back and then I'm like, Oh yeah, I didn't think of it that way. Or so then you provide questions. It's like, well, as may the listener, you provoke them in may. So that's. I guess you're doing that.
[00:47:17] Crystal Andrews: [00:47:17] And then I come back at the end and say, so the answer is, I don't know, like
[00:47:22] Grace Peris: [00:47:22] great next podcast.
[00:47:23] Crystal Andrews: [00:47:23] I'm sure it's deeply unsatisfying for everybody listening, but that's, that's what it's like, I guess a lot of the time.
[00:47:30] GB: [00:47:30] Yeah, we just don't know. Well, um, one thing that we do know is that when we get back into a group setting, we're going to be starting to play a bit of team sports at big media company.
[00:47:43] Jess Lucas: [00:47:43] Crystal's aren't allowed to play though. So she can't join
[00:47:46] Crystal Andrews: [00:47:46] so competitive
[00:47:49] GB: [00:47:49] to be the
[00:47:49] Grace Peris: [00:47:49] umpire.
[00:47:51] Crystal Andrews: [00:47:51] Oh yeah. I love that role for me. I think I'd be great at them. That's
[00:47:55] GB: [00:47:55] a great idea.
[00:47:56] Mr. 97: [00:47:56] Yeah, that'd be so
[00:47:58] GB: [00:47:58] here's a little bit about [00:48:00] Josh deciding on which gear we should get. Would you ever get your own baseball gloves so we can have out meetings
[00:48:06] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:06] like throwing the baseball.
[00:48:08] GB: [00:48:08] I'd love that we're going to need headsets. So we're going to need radio headsets that allow us to communicate from 40 yards. You know what I mean?
[00:48:16] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:16] Maybe I buy some
[00:48:17] GB: [00:48:17] Frisbees as well. Vortex vortex. Haven't seen a vortex in a long time. I think I want to be the sports equipment guy, uh, cricket. Like you get your, your bat ball and stumps.
[00:48:27] If you rock up with stumps, you're fucking you're into it. I reckon 10 items, basketball, soccer ball.
[00:48:36] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:36] Football
[00:48:37] GB: [00:48:37] greed, I and Frisbee, um, a rice bowl gloves to everyone. There we go. Paci set.
[00:48:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:45] I just want to start to have a clean bag. I don't want it to get,
[00:48:47] GB: [00:48:47] cause I can see this getting messy already and
[00:48:49] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:49] people losing shit, not
[00:48:50] GB: [00:48:50] knowing like, you know, that I was the kid who managed
[00:48:53] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:53] all the sports equipment in year six
[00:48:55] GB: [00:48:55] and we had a whole tag system.
[00:48:57] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:57] Do you want to be in shape
[00:48:58] GB: [00:48:58] the producer of sport equipment?
[00:48:59] Crystal Andrews: [00:48:59] So [00:49:00] like you can sort of
[00:49:01] GB: [00:49:01] help manage the sporting equipment.
[00:49:03] Crystal Andrews: [00:49:03] Good pay teacher. I've always said that. He said that.
[00:49:11] GB: [00:49:11] So he quickly had handballed to the, uh, the job of taking care of the sports equipment to you.
[00:49:19] Crystal Andrews: [00:49:19] It was literally, I'm going to be the sports equipment. Grace, do you want to look after them?
[00:49:25] Grace Peris: [00:49:25] I'll happily do it. Give me something.
[00:49:28] GB: [00:49:28] So who's your. Which footy team do you go for again?
[00:49:31] Grace Peris: [00:49:31] Here we go.
[00:49:34] Crystal Andrews: [00:49:34] Okay. I support the West coast Eagles and grace in grace doesn't know anything.
[00:49:42] Grace Peris: [00:49:42] You could say that. I mean, you guys do a lot better than us this season.
[00:49:46] GB: [00:49:46] What happened?
[00:49:47] Grace Peris: [00:49:47] Shame, shame you got kicked out of the file was recently,
[00:49:50] Crystal Andrews: [00:49:50] you know, it was, but it was nice to be in a final. It's nice to have. It's nice to have premiership cups.
[00:49:58] Grace Peris: [00:49:58] You guys.
[00:49:59] Jess Lucas: [00:49:59] What having a [00:50:00] chance of winning
[00:50:01] Crystal Andrews: [00:50:01] Oh, hats. Oh, Aw, you guys are honestly are red hot run.
[00:50:11] Jess Lucas: [00:50:11] I mean, we have the Bain for the long flat five or so years.
[00:50:16] Grace Peris: [00:50:16] You have a second team crystal like Betty, does your partner, your boyfriend go for a team that,
[00:50:20] Crystal Andrews: [00:50:20] Oh, no. Hey, he's not interested in ESL at all, but I, um, I think anyone who's knocked out right now. It's irresponsible to not be barracking for Brisbane at this point, because you can't have the only grand final potentially ever to not be held at the mcg held in Brisbane.
[00:50:39] And the home team has it shot at actually being in like, I just think it'd be sad for them to not pay their
[00:50:45] Jess Lucas: [00:50:45] classic
[00:50:45] Crystal Andrews: [00:50:45] underdog story here. Yeah. That's all you want to say. That's what we need really in 2020. That's
[00:50:51] Grace Peris: [00:50:51] why I go for Dockers
[00:50:56] Crystal Andrews: [00:50:56] ever ending underdog story.
[00:51:00] [00:50:59] Mr. 97: [00:50:59] What other sports equipment could be? Could we get any other main ones that stick out that TJ didn't
[00:51:05] GB: [00:51:05] list? What's your favorite social sport?
[00:51:08] Crystal Andrews: [00:51:08] Well, all of the like sports equipment you guys were talking about, kind of like really took me back to nineties, primary school, kind of like vibe.
[00:51:18] And I have the like most distinct memories of like hot summers in Perth on the beach, like family barbecues, playing with those plastic. Like the scoop catchy things and the ball that you like, Oh, you catch the plastic ball and the little scoop thing, and then you throw it back and then I used to make them,
[00:51:40] Grace Peris: [00:51:40] you could make them out of that milk cartons.
[00:51:42] Crystal Andrews: [00:51:42] Yes. Yeah. And then there was also the Velcro.
[00:51:46] Mr. 97: [00:51:46] Yes.
[00:51:48] Crystal Andrews: [00:51:48] I think that's what you need.
[00:51:49] Grace Peris: [00:51:49] Also the, um, is it toad of tennis with a pole
[00:51:52] Crystal Andrews: [00:51:52] stuck? You hit the ball
[00:51:55] Grace Peris: [00:51:55] around yet tennis ball.
[00:51:57] Mr. 97: [00:51:57] Perfect fun beach as well
[00:51:58] Grace Peris: [00:51:58] are great for the beach.
[00:52:00] [00:52:00] Crystal Andrews: [00:52:00] Exactly. So I think Chuck that in the, in the sports bag, Greg you're on today, I'll write it
[00:52:07] Grace Peris: [00:52:07] down.
[00:52:08] Mr. 97: [00:52:08] How are you going to manage your scrubs? Are you like labels, XL
[00:52:16] GB: [00:52:16] like a booking system online?
[00:52:17] Crystal Andrews: [00:52:17] Yes.
[00:52:19] Grace Peris: [00:52:19] Um, I would, I wouldn't let the, um, grumps, you know, DM the daily talk show or anything. Cause I would get replaced.
[00:52:31] Crystal Andrews: [00:52:31] None of us.
[00:52:36] GB: [00:52:36] I think it's
[00:52:37] Crystal Andrews: [00:52:37] been booted off. Instagram half the time
[00:52:40] Mr. 97: [00:52:40] it
[00:52:41] Grace Peris: [00:52:41] falls on you. Um, I dunno. We'll have to figure it out. I'd have to think about it. Josh. Hasn't really spoken to me about it yet. So maybe I should just start at myself.
[00:52:50] Crystal Andrews: [00:52:50] Is it gonna be like, is there a dedicated sports day? Like is Friday sport day.
[00:52:55] Mr. 97: [00:52:55] This is what we need, we need like, and we need like PA classes, [00:53:00] like on, on the day, we need to know that that's the day that we're bringing runners and that we're going to have all our gear there. Ready to fight. Cause, cause we're going to have to bring it into work.
[00:53:11] Crystal Andrews: [00:53:11] Yeah. You're really going to need to move into an office with like change rooms and showers as well.
[00:53:17] Like, cause if it's in the middle of the day, then you're like all sweaty, sweaty and stinky after. So
[00:53:22] Grace Peris: [00:53:22] then imagine being sweaty in the office or now that bio
[00:53:26] Crystal Andrews: [00:53:26] though. Especially if Josh
[00:53:30] Jess Lucas: [00:53:30] doesn't fucking wash his pits
[00:53:31] Crystal Andrews: [00:53:31] every day, like
[00:53:36] Mr. 97: [00:53:36] it's not ideal. Yeah.
[00:53:38] Grace Peris: [00:53:38] Well, it could just be like, you could have like Friday afternoons. That was what is the best time to have sport and then move on to like Friday night drinks.
[00:53:47] Jess Lucas: [00:53:47] I was going to say, though, grace, I'm not doing Fridays because I go out Friday night after work. Okay. So
[00:53:54] Crystal Andrews: [00:53:54] I lock it's Friday.
[00:53:59] Thursday's a [00:54:00] good day for work related social activities because it lets people have their Friday. So their own like time after work, but Thursdays, like, you know, you got to come back into the office the next day anyway, so. What about Maxwell? Well, get drunk and sleep there. Yeah.
[00:54:15] GB: [00:54:15] If it's safe,
[00:54:17] Grace Peris: [00:54:17] the flags, you have the little like Velcro belts.
[00:54:19] Yeah. And then you have flags that you pull off. So instead of touching Bay,
[00:54:22] Crystal Andrews: [00:54:22] we pull the flags
[00:54:23] GB: [00:54:23] off. Yeah. I love that
[00:54:25] Crystal Andrews: [00:54:25] flag. Footy is much harder than so much harder. So getting those little flags it's true.
[00:54:32] Mr. 97: [00:54:32] I've never played
[00:54:33] Grace Peris: [00:54:33] flag. Oh my God. It was the best thing.
[00:54:34] Mr. 97: [00:54:34] I've only because we played. I think they just call it tag and you just like tuck those little, like things into your shorts and you just rip 'em out.
[00:54:44] Grace Peris: [00:54:44] yeah. Basically the same.
[00:54:47] Crystal Andrews: [00:54:47] Okay.
[00:54:48] Jess Lucas: [00:54:48] Can I make a suggestion? Yes,
[00:54:49] Grace Peris: [00:54:49] here we go.
[00:54:51] Jess Lucas: [00:54:51] I'd really like to get some boxing pads and gloves for everyone else and we can just start boxing each other in the ring.
[00:54:59] Grace Peris: [00:54:59] I was saying to me [00:55:00] the other day, I feel like I need to do some boxing, let some stress out.
[00:55:04] Crystal Andrews: [00:55:04] So you and me
[00:55:05] Jess Lucas: [00:55:05] come with me as soon as it opens in a month, we'll get real good.
[00:55:09] And then watch out
[00:55:11] Crystal Andrews: [00:55:11] TJ can you have a, like the little tournament? Yeah, everybody old go learn. And then you can all just have little. Sparring matches against each other.
[00:55:27] Grace Peris: [00:55:27] Oh God.
[00:55:29] GB: [00:55:29] Beat the shit out of us
[00:55:31] Grace Peris: [00:55:31] broken noses.
[00:55:34] Jess Lucas: [00:55:34] Tommy's got an advantage. He's got a length advantage on me, but I've got a maybe skillset advantage on him.
[00:55:39] Mr. 97: [00:55:39] What's what's the deal with WorkSafe. Are we getting covered for them?
[00:55:44] Grace Peris: [00:55:44] So you can be the, the umpire and the ring.
[00:55:47] Crystal Andrews: [00:55:47] Yeah, I'll do that. I did it. Um, I did a charity like boxing match, uh, in 2016. And it's honestly the best, like it's the best fucking book Perth or boxing. [00:56:00] Yeah.
[00:56:05] So I actually, um, fought against a girl who had an extreme height and reach advantage over me. Um, yeah, it didn't work out in my favor.
[00:56:16] Mr. 97: [00:56:16] Is that scary? Like what's
[00:56:18] Crystal Andrews: [00:56:18] yeah. No. It really isn't like after you've had, um, after you've like done all the training, I got, I'm trying to think how many weeks of training it was.
[00:56:29] Grace Peris: [00:56:29] Yeah, one of my friends did it. Um, probably a couple of years ago. And she said it was so intense, like the training that like such so strict and what you ate. And I think she had to put on weight so that her, she was a similar way to her boxing partner. So she was like eating all this stuff all the time.
[00:56:44] I'm like, Oh my God just seemed crazy.
[00:56:47] Crystal Andrews: [00:56:47] It's it's the best fund. Like if anyone's thinking about doing it fully recommend. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. Hmm. Wow.
[00:56:55] Jess Lucas: [00:56:55] I had to lose weight grace
[00:56:56] Crystal Andrews: [00:56:56] in
[00:57:03] [00:57:00] Jess Lucas: [00:57:03] I agree though. It was one of the best experiences I've ever had in my life. It's so thrilling, like being in the ring and just like afterwards, I've never felt so like euphoric is the word for it. Like you just it's just like this weird. Hi. And I won. So, I mean
[00:57:25] GB: [00:57:25] Crystal.
[00:57:27] Crystal Andrews: [00:57:27] No, no, not really. I don't know if I'm, I'm not sure I don't want to generalize, but I don't know if these kind of charity fights, um, for women. I just didn't feel, I knew I was getting like, when you get hit, you know, that you've been hit, but you honestly don't feel anything in the fight. The next day I was like a bit sore as you would be.
[00:57:47] Cause there's also like an intensely physical thing. It'd be like running a race. Right. But you don't feel the, the hip. So you think that you would, I think it's just the adrenaline, like the lights, you [00:58:00] can't see anything outside of the ring. You can only see this other person like it's. So it's actually quite like intimate.
[00:58:06] It's really intense, but the best fun, like fun. Alright,
[00:58:10] GB: [00:58:10] let's do it.
[00:58:14] Jess Lucas: [00:58:14] Grace, you should actually sign up and then you should do the next five that
[00:58:17] Crystal Andrews: [00:58:17] they do. Maybe, maybe do it though.
[00:58:21] Grace Peris: [00:58:21] I used to do boxing back in Perth, like when I had a paycheck, that was like one of the main
[00:58:26] Crystal Andrews: [00:58:26] exercises that we did. So I enjoyed it. I think he'd be great at it. I think you should give it a shot.
[00:58:32] I just duck and run
[00:58:33] Grace Peris: [00:58:33] away.
[00:58:38] Jess Lucas: [00:58:38] That's fine.
[00:58:41] GB: [00:58:41] Just before we finish up guys, uh, a couple of weeks ago, we had Ryan Shelton on the show and he, we were talking about his videos that he releases on the 11th of every month. And we were coming up with a few ideas for him and we had this little discussion. Can there be some sort of like hidden message [00:59:00] in there for hump day replay.
[00:59:01] So we know that you thought about it and then decided not to do it. Okay. Well, okay. I can't call it dress because my ex girlfriend's name is Jess.
[00:59:10] Crystal Andrews: [00:59:10] What about Lucas? That's cute. Like a kid.
[00:59:13] GB: [00:59:13] Okay. Well, okay. If I, if I do it, it'll be the Calvin called Lucas. Say his video that came out on the 11th. It wasn't about cows.
[00:59:23] Uh, but the character in it was called Lucas.
[00:59:30] Crystal Andrews: [00:59:30] Thanks Ryan. A
[00:59:30] GB: [00:59:30] bit of a celebration.
[00:59:31] Crystal Andrews: [00:59:31] So exciting chance. How's it feel? Do you feel famous? I'm
[00:59:36] Jess Lucas: [00:59:36] a little bit. I was like not famous. I was like,
[00:59:38] Crystal Andrews: [00:59:38] Oh, my God, I can't believe he actually nodded to us
[00:59:40] Jess Lucas: [00:59:40] like how funny that he actually remembered to do it.
[00:59:45] Grace Peris: [00:59:45] They're nice.
[00:59:46] Crystal Andrews: [00:59:46] He's gray. I really loved listening to that episode.
[00:59:51] And George, you just absolutely like a fan boy. It was so great. It's really joyous and delightful. Like it was just really [01:00:00] fun to listen.
[01:00:02] GB: [01:00:02] I appreciate it. Thanks so much for coming on crystal. Sorry. We, uh, We just bombarded you with
[01:00:08] GB: [01:00:08] questions that we did.
[01:00:10] Crystal Andrews: [01:00:10] My absolute pleasure.
[01:00:12] GB: [01:00:12] It was, it was really great.
[01:00:13] And everyone should go and check out the feed on Instagram and see feed.com that I knew.
[01:00:18] Mr. 97: [01:00:18] It's so exciting what you're doing. Like I think we, we look up to what you're doing and you as a creator and it's, yeah, it's super awesome that you're developing sort of nation being able to really focus on the end and give people.
[01:00:31] That's want so, so cool.
[01:00:32] Crystal Andrews: [01:00:32] Oh, thank you. The feeling's definitely mutual. I think all of you guys are amazing and I'm slowly making my way through it. Appearing on every single of.
[01:00:44] GB: [01:00:44] thanks for that guys. We'll uh, we'll see you next week.